Dangers of gel nails

[vitality]

Medical professional stating the harmful effects of gel nails? He recommends clients bringing their own tools I would think their own tools would be less hygienic. Thoughts on this?

Gel Nail Polish: The Painted Truth - YouTube

 

[Alpenrose]

Oh yeah! Will the dentist allow you to use own tools?I had a couple of one-off clients whoinsisted that I use their stuff. When I pointed out to the lady that there are bits of skin and nails stuck in the clippers, you know she said? "yeah, I know but this is mine.
I would say to the client that I would only perform the treatment whith client's tools if she'd signednot to complain about the quality of the treatment and any infections which may later occur. I proposed it to the client above and she swiftly changed her mind.

 

[MaisyMouse]

I dont think people should bring their own tools, but i do think all metal tools should be sterilised (autoclaved) not just sanitised between clients, also think all files should be disposable.

 

[JuicyLucy]

I dont think people should bring their own tools, but i do think all metal tools should be sterilised (autoclaved) not just sanitised between clients, also think all files should be disposable.

I don't think they need to be sterilised between clients but they do need to be properly sanitised. We are not doing brain surgery.

 

[Crystal colleen]

I think barbaside is good enough for sanitizing xx

 

[Crystal colleen]

I think barbaside is good enough for sterilising xx

This man can hardly speak let alone give advice on nails :lol: obviously hasn't done his homework tut tut tut lol

 

[SamIam]

The only reason our implements would need to be sterilized is if we cut someone and they bleed and we immediately use that same implement on someone else and cut them. If we do what we are suppose to in sanitizing and disinfecting our implements and not cut people there is no need to sterilize. Even a doctor should know that!

 

[JuicyLucy]

I think barbaside is good enough for sterilising xx

Barbicide is a sanitiser/disinfectant not a sterilizer.

This is a quote taken from Geeg in another thread

Disinfection and sterilization are both methods of removing pathogens from a surface. Pathogens are disease-causing organisms, ie some bacteria, virus etc).

Disinfection will remove all living pathogens from a surface apart from spores.

Sterilization will remove all living pathogens from a surface including spores.

bacteria that tend to be in the format of spores are things that are usually blood born pathogens such as hepatitus. SOOOOOOOOOOOO ... sterilization is only necessary is you draw blood or body fluid when using an implement such as a file or cuticle knife etc. The file you would simply throw away but the metal implement would require sterilization.

Disinfection is more than adequate in all other circumstances for your manicure tools.

 

[Crystal colleen]

Barbicide is a sanitiser/disinfectant not a sterilizer.

This is a quote taken from Geeg in another thread

That's what I meant was writing pretty quick and didn't read over what I had written wrote the wrong word

 

[Crystal colleen]

That's what I meant was writing pretty quick and didn't read over what I had written wrote the wrong word

No need to read the thread lol it was a writing mistake I know this lol

 

[geeg]

Brain surgery ot not, if blood has been drawn then they need to be sterilised.

I had my nail done at the beauty show by someone who works for a well know company, she cut me, and put the nippers in barbicide - this is not enough. I then watched her use them straight away on someone else.

A chiropodist has to sterilise metal tools. I personally would never have my nails done, fingers or toes my anyone who doesnt sterilise metal tools.

Also the thought of someone using a file that has been used on someone else too me is disgusting.

That is my opinon as asked by op.

That may be your personal opinion but it is not based on fact. What a chiropodist needs to do has nothing to do with our business of nail enhsncement.

Let's stick to the facts. Only in rhe case of blood contamination would anyone need to sterilise their metal tools in a nail salon, for the reason that has been stated already, that proper disinfection kills all known pathogens with the exception of spores. these are our own industry guidelines and as such are sufficient and the people following this protocol do not have to worry that they are not doing all that is necessary.

As to files ... All files should be cleaned and sanitised between treatments, again acording to our own industry guidelines. Most files and buffers in fact have been used to file 'plastic' and are not in the least disgusting and washing or cleaning and spraying is sufficient care between clients. Those are our guidelines in the UK.

I also think the medical professional in the you tube video above was not altogether wrong in many of the things he said ... Obviously he could not be specific, but I'm pretty confident that most of his remarks were directed towards those who frequent badly run nail bars where sanitation is suspect. I believe that because of all the bad press regarding these places that many ladies in North America now provide their own personal tools rather than take the perceived risk that the salon may not be cleaning their tools properly.

As to the UV light exposure issue ... That has been proved to be nonsense through independent reports from UV light specialists not related to the nail industry.

 

[MaisyMouse]

As I said before blood was drawn and the tools were only sanitised, if blood comes into contact then they need to be sterilised this was a nail educator for a well known company, who used the same tool on the next client, straight away.

I do not use barbicide as I autoclave everything but surely they have to be in the solution for a certain length of time to 'sanitise'?

Filing plastic is different, but again I would never go into a salon that reused nail files. You are not filing plastic when doing Shellac.

Why ask for opinions then shoot everyone down who has one??????

 

[geeg]

As I said before blood was drawn and the tools only sanitised, if blood comes into contact then they need to be sterilised this was a nail educator for a well known company, so anyone could do that, and im sure plenty have.

Yes I said it is my opinion, and I am entitiled to it.

Why ask for opions then shoot everyone down who has one??????

Rubbish and no one ,shot you down nor anyone else never mind 'everyone'! Talk about blowing things out of proportion.

There is opinion (which you are entitled to and which doesnt make it 'right' ) and then there is fact. Opinion is not always based on fact or even good reasoning.

Which is why I said, let's stick to the facts. What that person did at the show was not right according to what I said and the point was also made clear before your post as well ...

 

[MaisyMouse]

Rubbish and no one ,shot you down nor anyone else never mind 'everyone'! Talk about blowing things out of proportion.

There is opinion (which you are entitled to and which doesnt make it 'right' ) and then there is fact. Opinion is not always based on fact or even good reasoning.

Which is why I said, let's stick to the facts. What that person did at the show was not right according to what I said and the point was also made clear before your post as well ...

what is your opinion on when blood was drawn and the tools not sterilised?

 

[geeg]

what is your opinion on when blood was drawn and the tools not sterilised?

I've just said in my post above ... What she/he did was not right. Of course a different set of tools should have been used .. There is no room for autoclaves at shows and no time to sterilise. Shows are not the ideal place to do nails either. One does hundreds in a day. If people are really worried about it they shouldn't have a nail done at a show. Never heard of anyone in 30 years who has picked up hepatitis at a show though. Highly unlikely. That does not mean however that technicians should be slack ... They need to do the best they can under the circumstances.

 

[MaisyMouse]

I agree it is totally unlikely to catch anything, but if a metal tool comes into contact with blood it should be sterilised, at a show or in a salon.

I was horrified by this, I can imagine this does not only happen at shows.

Sorry but I think everyone should be sterilising metal tools, I always will and I will always go somewhere that does the same, hence I never get my nails done anywhere else. My clients also get their nail file away with them, no re-use of nail files in my salon.

 

[geeg]

I agree it is totally unlikely to catch anything, but if a metal tool comes into contact with blood it should be sterilised, at a show or in a salon.

I was horrified by this, I can imagine this does not only happen at shows.

Sorry but I think everyone should be sterilising metal tools, I always will and I will always go somewhere that does the same, hence I never get my nails done anywhere else. My clients also get their nail file away with them, no re-use of nail files in my salon.

Well overkill is overkill but that doesn't make it wrong to do it and it doesn't make it wrong not to do it when it is unnecessary to do so. I have never owned a steriliser and never used one and never will and I clean wash and disinfect all files and re-use them until they can't be used anymore.

 

[Crystal colleen]

Agreed I use barbaside to sanitise my tools and I use spray to do my files.it takes 10 mins in barbaside I leave for 15 as I'm anal about it lol.

You can also mix a hospital strength barbaside if you wish

I don't think any one has been nasty or horrible I think that is a bit of an out there statement anyway.........hi again geeg :Love:

 

[MaisyMouse]

Agreed I use barbaside to sanitise my tools and I use spray to do my files.it takes 10 mins in barbaside I leave for 15 as I'm anal about it lol.

You can also mix a hospital strength barbaside if you wish

I don't think any one has been nasty or horrible I think that is a bit of an out there statement anyway.........hi again geeg :Love:

I never said anyone had been nasty or horrible.

 

[geeg]

Let's move along and not get bogged down in semantics, ladies, shall we?