Bio Sculpture for personal use only?

[Shellanderson77]

My Mum has bio sculpture overlays and I would love them but cannot afford it. My Mum has offered to buy the stuff for me to do it for the two of us but I'm astonished at the price of the training.

I would love to hear your opinions on whether or not you think the training is worth it to only do it for private use. I will not be doing it for other people, only for Mum and I.

Thanks

Shell

 

[MINKUS]

My Mum has bio sculpture overlays and I would love them but cannot afford it. My Mum has offered to buy the stuff for me to do it for the two of us but I'm astonished at the price of the training.

I would love to hear your opinions on whether or not you think the training is worth it to only do it for private use. I will not be doing it for other people, only for Mum and I.

Thanks

Shell

hmmmm tricky one !

I think if you did the training you'd be hooked on doing it and you'd get peeps asking where you got your nails done and who did your mum's....so prepare for it to spiral! is that a bad thing??:green:

Yep the training and kit initially is a few bob but worth it imho !!

I'd do it ....what have you got to loose?

Just to say though I have used it 3 years + though and still struggle to do my own (on my cack hand !)

Be aware .......I think a decent nail tek makes the job look easy **and easy it aint** especially in the beginning !!

AMb xxx

 

[Zingara]

But Bio Sculpture training isn't for people who want it for personal use only. The training is designed for techs who want to use the product in a salon or busines, so yes, i think its very well priced for this. The kit includes more or less everything you need for the product, as an experienced tech, and the product training cost comes in at about £75 on top of the value of the goods.

Bio Sculpture is a professional product, designed to be used by professional techs, not a home use product, so they don;t do 'end user' training.

Any extra training costs you may have to pay over this are to train you to be a nail tech as I'm guessing you aren't qualified as one right now.

My advice, sadly is that your Mum will get better value for money by continuing to have them done professionally.....us techs invest a lot of money in our training. You think Bio Sculpture training is expensive.....I've spent many times more....literally thouands and I will probably continue to do so to ensure I'm at the top of my game.

 

[MINKUS]

But Bio Sculpture training isn't for people who want it for personal use only. The training is designed for techs who want to use the product in a salon or busines, so yes, i think its very well priced for this. The kit includes more or less everything you need for the product, as an experienced tech, and the product training cost comes in at about £75 on top of the value of the goods.

Bio Sculpture is a professional product, designed to be used by professional techs, not a home use product, so they don;t do 'end user' training.

Any extra training costs you may have to pay over this are to train you to be a nail tech as I'm guessing you aren't qualified as one right now.

My advice, sadly is that your Mum will get better value for money by continuing to have them done professionally.....us techs invest a lot of money in our training. You think Bio Sculpture training is expensive.....I've spent many times more....literally thouands and I will probably continue to do so to ensure I'm at the top of my game.

thinking on it...dont you have to have some form of nail technician qualification/manicure qualification in the first place to be able to do it?

Your reply was so much better than mine:cry: oh wise one!

Have to say this is why i started doing nails though with the view of 'just doing my own' !

AMb x

 

[Zingara]

thinking on it...dont you have to have some form of nail technician qualification/manicure qualification in the first place to be able to do it?

Your reply was so much better than mine:cry: oh wise one!

Have to say this is why i started doing nails though with the view of 'just doing my own' !

AMb x

:lol: Amb!

You can do manicure / pedicure and tip training with Bio if you haven't got a recognised Tech qualification. but its another cost on top of the tech starter kit and product training....albeit, its actually really very cheap compared to what a foundation equivalent would cost you elsewhere (prices are on the new website - did you know about the new website :?:. On line ordering and all that!!!)

I think a lot of people started by thinking I can learn to do this a lot cheaper than paying for it in the salons (half of them bought the Rio kit!), and you know I absolutely applaud those that went on to do it properly by researching the training requirements, the health and safety aspect and get properly trained, often ending up taking it up as a living....it's a wonderful industry and so easy to get passionate about....but the question I have to ask of those people trying to save a few bucks by doing home nails is...


"If you think having your nails done at a salon is expensive - why do you think that is?"

Ok, there are a very FEW slightly better off nail technicians. But the majority of us count every penny, watch the money go out just as fast...if not faster, than it comes in, and we drive older cars and live in smaller houses, and thank god every month that our partners have a steady income!

So where does all that money we charge go to then?

Training and products! They're not cheap, so no one is really going to be able to do a good job...on the cheap, at home.

Oh god listen to me, just ignore me....I'm on one tonight!!:smack: xxx

 

[mdskora]

The girls are right... fully qualified nail techs spend ALOT of money training and learning all the time... we don;t make alot of money out of the business... I am forever searching the net for cheaper prices.. but i never stray from creative or IBD.. NEVER.. it isn;t worth it... and yes it looks alot easier than it actually is.. I have been doing it for 4 years and I am still learning. I would not go to the expense of doing a nail course just for you and your mum... they say it takes 100 sets of nails before you master it.. i say 1000.... would you be able to have start a business if you really loved it?... We all do it for the love not the money

 

[CurlyQs]

I agree. Although I can understand that many nail techs start out this way ... and nothing wrong with that... you will never recoup your money if you're not doing it professionally. And like others have said, it LOOKS so much easier than it is and doing your own nails is the toughest task of all.
x

 

[Little Angel]

Seriously if your only going to do yours and your mums its really not worth it! We all practice and train for hours on end, it may look easy but thats because we know what were doing.

I make cutting hair look easy but my clients wouldnt attempt it!

The money you would shell out on the course and the gells should give you a clue as to why its 'expensive' to get it done. You have to remember its not just the products we use that you are paying for if only life were that easy its our SKILL!!

I dont mean to be harsh but what you would pay for a nno with biosculpture will last you a month you compare that to a weekly manicure and polish?

Regards Tracy

 

[ADiva1]

It wont be worth training in Biosculpture products just to do your Mum's nails. Its much cheaper and safer if she went to a professional person who trained to use Biosculpture products.

You wont want to colour and cut your hair at home, would you? Best left to your hair dresser!

All the beauty and nail services look so easy when you are sitting on the other side, but they are certainly not.

You do not know about half the stress and sacrifices we go through to continue to train and produce the best services possible!

 

[~Emmsybabes~]

If you have a passion even slightly for nails....get your bum booked on a course hun,
I originally only booked onto my mani and pedi course to get onto the artificial enhancment course...to do my own nails as I couldnt afford to ever get mine done,

I had only ever had them done once before at the age of 17 when my mate paid for me...
whereas now, I have set up my own business...and have courses galore planned,

I have found something I LOVE,

If it really is only to do your own and your mums nails, and you have no drive to do nails,
I will be totally honest with you, I wouldn't bother,
You will spend lots of money, and may still find you cant get to grips with nails,
I think you do have to have a certain amount of love for what you are doing, to get the best results.

I would love to be able to plaster my own walls ...but if i spent hundreds on a course, I probably still couldnt do it, as There is no passion there...

Im waffling now I'll shush lol :lol:

 

[geeg]

Dear oh dear, aren't we nail techs a noble bunch!!

If you have an interest in doing nails then my opìnion is, go for it. You may just become a pro one day.

If you are thinking to spend heaps on your training just to do your own or your mum's nails or visa versa, then my experience teaching tells me your money will be wasted.

I have taught many who wanted to really only do their own nails and they always went back to the salon eventually. It's hard enough getting a beautiful result on others never mind oneself, which is much more difficult.

As to cost of products, then my salon experience shows me that my core products only cost me 13-15% of my service charge .... SO WHERE IS ALL YOUR MONEY GOING LADIES???? You are spending it elsewhere and it is not all on training now is it??

 

[Zingara]

I agree my core products are about 15%....so here's where the rest of my money goes. (in no particular order)

Sundry items (brushes, lamps, furniture - all those things that need replacing once in a while)
Other consumables - handwashing stuff, coffee, loo rolls etc!
Advertising
Insurance
Uniforms & towels + washing
Printing - business cards, price lists, flyers etc
Running Costs (Electricity, heat etc)
P & P of goods to me (I can't beleive how much that costs me!)
Training (yes it is a fair percentage)
Stock (OK, I carry too much but i have a morbid fear of running out of retail items!)
Wastage - That gloopy bit of polish or gel in the bottom of the container!
NI and the tax man (and the ruddy accountant!)

....and there's probably more. This was just off the top of my head!

Gotta say after all this lot, well I'm not ordering the brand new Porsche too soon anyway! In fact I don't think, if you compare my hours to my actual wage, I'd be that far off minimum wage at the moment, but then I'm just getting a new business going in a new area, and I know things do get better!

Anyway, I say all of this just slightly tongue in cheek, but this and my previous point was to show that the cost of a set of nails done professionally isn't just about product, there's a lot more goes in to that cost of salon nails.

So yes, by all means if you think you may want to take up a career in nails - fantastic, go for it! But if you are doing to save money on just yours or your mums or a friends....then you won't!

 

[Shellanderson77]

Emmsybabes and Gigi - thank you for not lecturing me on the professional hardship of being a nail technician.

Thank all of you for your opinions, but it might be worth considering that I did ASK your opinions in order to make an informed choice and NOT to suggest that you don't deserve your money.

I'm a teacher and work damn hard for my money too - despite what most people think!

The exact reason I came on here was to ask the experts if it was worth spending a lot of money to train to do my Mums nails and my own.

Thank you all for your time and, for those of you who feel offended, I shant bother you again!

 

[geeg]

Emmsybabes and Gigi - thank you for not lecturing me on the professional hardship of being a nail technician.

Thank all of you for your opinions, but it might be worth considering that I did ASK your opinions in order to make an informed choice and NOT to suggest that you don't deserve your money.

I'm a teacher and work damn hard for my money too - despite what most people think!

The exact reason I came on here was to ask the experts if it was worth spending a lot of money to train to do my Mums nails and my own.

Thank you all for your time and, for those of you who feel offended, I shant bother you again!

You know what, the peeps here on the site, really aren't offended as such. I would say that many techs are a bit defencive because they are quite proud of the work they have put into learning their skills. So many people do not take what we do seriously and do think it is easy peasy and it really is not. The girls were only defending themselvesjust as you were defending yourself as a teacher, in your post.

People are always talking about how teachers have it easy and all the holidays and then school opens late because the first day of school is a training day etc... you know, I'm sure, all the things they say, and quite rightly you know the REAL situation from the inside the way an outsider never can.

Nail technicians feel the same way as you do because, generally speaking, folks do not take what we do seriously or even regard it as a profession ... which really it is. So you are in a better position than most to understand why some get offended and a bit uppity when others think it is just a case of a quick class and voilà ... they are a nail technician.

So don't leave the site with a bad taste in your mouth. You should understand much more than others why some people answered your query the way they did. Whatever you decide to do ... enjoy.

 

[CurlyQs]

Emmsybabes and Gigi - thank you for not lecturing me on the professional hardship of being a nail technician.

Thank all of you for your opinions, but it might be worth considering that I did ASK your opinions in order to make an informed choice and NOT to suggest that you don't deserve your money.

I'm a teacher and work damn hard for my money too - despite what most people think!

The exact reason I came on here was to ask the experts if it was worth spending a lot of money to train to do my Mums nails and my own.

Thank you all for your time and, for those of you who feel offended, I shant bother you again!

Hun, I think you've mistook some of the responses here. After reading many threads by the geeks who responded, I think they were just offering an informed opinion. And several did say to go for it if you have the passion.

No one wants to see you put up the money ... usually more than we foresee at the beginning... and be disappointed. If you are interested in doing nails, I think every single geek that responded would fully support that goal ... and even help you on your journey!

I understand how you read it, but have another look babes....
Just a bunch of passionate pros giving their perspective on the situation, I think.

Good luck with your decision and let us know how you make out.:hug:

 

[beautynails]

My Mum has bio sculpture overlays and I would love them but cannot afford it. My Mum has offered to buy the stuff for me to do it for the two of us but I'm astonished at the price of the training.

I would love to hear your opinions on whether or not you think the training is worth it to only do it for private use. I will not be doing it for other people, only for Mum and I.

Thanks

Shell

Just thought I should mention that if you would want to put together a collection of colours, that would cost heaps.

I don't really think it would be worth it, just to do you and your mum's nails, but, if you enjoy doing nails you might find that you do want to go further with it.

My advise in the mean time is to work out how many rebalances it would take to recoup your money.
Do you think it's worth it?
Are you and your mum willing to put up with less then perfect nails for a while?

There's your advise, now it's upto you.

I'd just like to add that I think it's great you've taken this seriously and not just gone and bought some cr** and chucked it on your nails.