Brazilian waxing with just a video!?

[bexi]

I really really really want to learn Brazillian waxing as sooooo many clients ask.

When my catalogues arrive I always look at these brazillian waxes that come with videos. Please tell me this is purely to refresh those who have trained? There aren't actually waxers who have just watched the video?

On the same note - where do people recommend to do brazillian waxing?

Becki xxx

 

[eager beaver]

There prob are those who feel they can watch a dvd and perform the treatment, but ther will be no insurance backup if needed, and imo is not an option/risk i would be prepared to take. the dvds are usually ut tips on using that particular brand of wax, and should not replace proper training.jmo .

 

[gillian w]

To me the idea of brazillians being that different is quite a new thing, ive been doing them for years as have many of my collegues but they were just very close bikini lines.Ive always just asked how much someone wants off and just done it.
Hollywoods or full intimate waxings a bit different for me depending on whether i want to do them,not that i cant. I dont do it because i havent got that certificate to say ive had that few hours training so im probably not insured.
I think if you have enough waxing experience with hot and strip wax you could wax anything if you had to.After all the people that now train other people in intimate waxing found their own way initially.

 

[tinkywinky]

Get this my old boss DREW a picture on a piece of paper TRYING TO SHOW me how to do a Brazilian. She was so dodgy it was beyond belief. Needless to say I left after 3 months and was disgusted in her and her dodgy ways. I had an argument and refused to do it.You can't mess with people's bits!!

For Brazilian you need an advanced waxing course, they run them at Sally's I think

Hope this helps, I wouldn't go near a video you need to practice in person to have a go, experience any problems etc.

Good luck lovey!!

 

[Axiom]

Every teaching method has it's place - my own waxing bears little resemblence to the Brazilian technique I was first taught, and it has developed over the years as my confidence has grown and as I continue to learn from personal experience, other therapists, forums such as this one, DVDs, and even clients.

HOWEVER... following in the wake of Habia's new National Occupational Standards on intimate waxing, before long in the UK all new therapists wanting to perform Brazilian or Hollywood waxing will need to undertake specific training that meets these standards in order to get insurance. I personally think this is a good thing for our industry and it will hopefully cut back on the horror stories I hear from clients who have been waxed by folks who thought they'd just "give it a go", without the necessary experience or guidance.

As Gill said, if you are proficient and confident in your use of wax you can theoretically wax anything - whether it's a hairy leg, chest, bikini line or a pair of hairy plums, the basic rules of waxing stay the same. BUT... I do feel that there are tips, tricks and variations of the basic technique that can make the whole experience more comfortable for all involved, and this is where a helping hand along the way from someone who has "gone before" can make the world of difference.

A technician on another forum jokes that she plans to write a book called "Mistakes I Have Made For You" - that sums up my thoughts on the matter perfectly, and for that very reason I wouldn't let my boys loose in the hands of anyone who hadn't received some form of instruction in the technique!

Andy x

 

[Zo Zo]

Just a quick word on the dvds available, not sure if I am breaking any forum rules by saying this, but the Clean & Easy one definitely doesn't show you how to do it (they don't actually put the wax on the intimate bits, it's more the application of hot wax), I also have one I bought from Amazon, can't really say whose, but again it would not teach you how to do one, and lastly I have the one Axiom has mentioned on other threads - Lori Nestore's Whole Ball of Wax and although this dvd is in another class altogether it is still not a substitute for training. And the problem with training is that you don't really know how good it is until you've done it so imo you kind of need to be prepared to do more than one course...
I have been doing Brazilians for 2 years and I'm only just starting to feel I can do a good job
I have been trained and I have watched dvd's and I have listened to other's tips so overall I would say I am self taught, but this is the same as everything else we do... it's rare to do one course and be really good at something, all treatments take practice to perfect, as every client is so different, and ongoing education is a must

 

[bexi]

Just to let u all know there is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO way I'd do it just with a dvd it scares me to think that people out there are doing it just willy nilly!!! Also a therpaist could just say oh yer i did that course to a client couuldnt they??

So these new guidelines will make people have to train before they can offer it?

Where / who would people recommend to do this kind of course with?

Do i have to have it done if i train!?
xxxbeckixxx

 

[Axiom]

Just to let u all know there is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO way I'd do it just with a dvd it scares me to think that people out there are doing it just willy nilly!!! Also a therpaist could just say oh yer i did that course to a client couuldnt they??

So these new guidelines will make people have to train before they can offer it?

Yes, therapists will be required to attend recognised training if they want insurance, but it's worth remembering that this has been the case with most of the major insurance providers for some time anyway.

Intimate waxing is now an optional Level 3 module, and there are separate units for male intimate waxing and female intimate waxing, so you only have to train in the specialism you want (i.e. if you don't want to wax men's bits, you don't have to!).

I imagine that this will take some time before it comes into full force, but the standards are now official and I would expect the various awarding bodies and insurance providers to embrace the new regulations over the coming months (some already have).

Where / who would people recommend to do this kind of course with?

Do i have to have it done if i train!?
xxxbeckixxx

Sallys, Capital Hair and Beauty, Aston and Fincher, Hive, Salon Supplies... all offer one day group training in female intimate waxing that will get you insurance with the major providers (Babtac, The Guild, Professional Beauty, etc) but I'd always recommend checking you'll be covered with your provider before joining any course, just in case

Various private colleges and independent trainers around the country also offer these courses, and it is possible to attend one-to-one training as well, although the cost will obviously increase with these. I can't recommend one over another, but have a search on the Professional Beauty site or The Guild's excellent training directory, they often have courses listed on there.

If you attend a group workshop, some will require attendees to work on each other, others ask you to bring a model - it'll usually say in the course information, but hopefully fellow Geeks will be able to help with details of the courses they have attended themselves

Hope that helps x

 

[Tracey Park]

before long in the UK all new therapists wanting to perform Brazilian or Hollywood waxing will need to undertake specific training that meets these standards in order to get insurance.

So where does that leave us at the moment then. I did a brazilian and hollywood 1 day course in Feb 2005 which covered women and we had to practice on each other. However ive not been "trained" to do men scuse the pun but I do and have been for a while now and its really begining to pick up youd be amazed!!!!

So does that mean I will have to do a male intimate course when they become available or not. I would anyway to update my skills but from what you were saying this only applys to new therapists so wanted clarification.

 

[Axiom]

So where does that leave us at the moment then. I did a brazilian and hollywood 1 day course in Feb 2005 which covered women and we had to practice on each other. However ive not been "trained" to do men scuse the pun but I do and have been for a while now and its really begining to pick up youd be amazed!!!!

So does that mean I will have to do a male intimate course when they become available or not. I would anyway to update my skills but from what you were saying this only applys to new therapists so wanted clarification.

If you are already trained in intimate waxing and insured to provide this service, my understanding is this will not change and you will be able to continue offering your current services. For a number of years most of the UK insurance providers out there have required therapists to undertake specialist training in Brazilian waxing before covering them anyway, so it shouldn't be an issue for most people... but I'd always suggest checking with your provider to make 100% sure!

Sorry for my confusing wording around the term "new therapists" - I meant folks new to the world of intimate waxing, regardless of how long they have been qualifed in other waxing techniques.

To be honest I'm not sure about the men's Brazilian waxing issue as very few courses actually included this in their original training, and many folks are in the same boat as you Tracey. I'm going to send a quick message to Louisa at The Guild and ask her to take a look at this thread, as I think she'll be able to give a more definitive answer

**EDITED TO ADD THE FOLLOWING**

I've been in contact with The Guild of Professional Beauty Therapists, who have been absolute stars and passed our questions on to their insurance underwriters. I'll post their response on hear as soon as I hear anything.

Andy x

 

[Axiom]

As promised, here is the response from The Guild of Professional Beauty Therapists regarding Brazilian waxing re-training. My questions are in blue, their responses are in red. Huge thanks to Louisa and Lynne for taking the time to answer!

As I’m sure you are aware, Habia recently introduced new Level 3 units and National Occupational Standards for intimate waxing, and of course this will have training implications for anyone wanting to offer the service in the future. I also believe that The Guild have always required therapists to undertake specialist training in Brazilian waxing before offering it as a salon service - have I got that right? Yes this is correct.

The question which has arisen is whether the new units and NOS will affect the insurance of those who have already trained in Brazilian waxing in the past? Do people have to re-train, or can they continue to offer the service? They would not have to re-train as long as they were still only carrying out the treatments they were trained to do.

Specifically for those offering services for male clients - under the new Habia standards the male and female waxing units are separate and quite distinct, but because male intimate waxing was rarely covered in older Brazilian waxing courses, many folks who currently offer this service are effectively "self-taught". So... if a therapist has only attended a class covering female intimate waxing techniques, can he or she continue to offer male Brazilian waxing or would they now need to attend another training course? They would have to train in male and female intimate waxing to be insured to carry out these treatments.

Anyone carrying out such treatments should hold and have approved the qualification. Guild membership insurance cover states the following: “For all treatments requiring insurance cover, you must hold and have agreed the appropriate qualifications for those treatments that you practice. We do require photocopies of qualification certificates sending in with your application.” Therefore, if you have not received the appropriate training in such treatments you would not be insured to carry them out. Please contact me if you require any further assistance.

Hope that helps!

Andy x

 

[Katelisa]

Ive been doing female intimates for 4 years, i have no formal qualification in it. Its a good thing that they are introducing it because there are so many butchers out there. Just a bit crap that im gonna have to take time out and spend money to go to a course that may or may not actually teach me something, just to get a certificate for my insurance.

 

[Rach]

So i am assuming, anyone that has completed the standard NVQ Level 2 unit for waxing, this only covers bikini line (in terms of intimate waxing) and if you want to offer brazilian etc to your clients then you should attend a separate brazilian/hollywood/advanced waxing course?

I know a lot of the local private colleges to me who offer VTCT or NVQ's, all offer a separate course for advanced/brazilian waxing.

 

[jo-from-moorspa]

Brazilian waxing with just a video!?

Surely it would be better to use wax rather than a just a video, I am sure it would play havoc with the tracking.

 

[pure]

Brazilian waxing with just a video!?

Surely it would be better to use wax rather than a just a video, I am sure it would play havoc with the tracking.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[bexi]

LOL i never thought it could come across like that haha!!!

Maybe I could set up my own course?! :green: