Disgusted!

[Laura_Loo]

I was shocked and horrified to listen to my customer telling me how she is going to become a nail technician over the internet??!! She payed £295 to have a small gel kit and training hand posted to her .... she then has a go at applying gel to the hand from what the dvd shows her, un-clips the nails and posts them back.... they then send her a certificate as a "qualified" nail technician!! .... WHATS THAT ABOUT?? x

 

[Boutiques]

hello

i know it is shocking how people get qualified these days, when we either go to college or go on courses that takes weeks even months to master before we get a certificate! i do not know how they justify i these days xx

Hayley xxx
Boutiques Mobile Beauty

 

[Laura_Loo]

i knowwwww annoys me so much ... anddd then the same people come and have their nails done , sit in your chair and say " i do nails myself" as if to make you nervous.. why are they coming to you if they do them themselves lol .. they then brag about this "home learning" dvd ... at the end question why the nails is "thicker" in the middle they want it flat how it "should be" .. it is called an apex ... A...P..E..X ... do they actually get recognised with these sort of "payed for" certificates?? i dont get it! xx

 

[mizzy_dizzy]

Being Qualified isnt the same as being able to do it Hun, I started out in collage doing an N.V.Q as I thought that was the best way it it wasn't but it was a start though,out of the 12ish people who I did the year long class with how many do you think dose nails for work now? 1 ! ....me! <p>
I don't think shes wasted her money why? Because I think if she really wants to learn then she will go on to do more classes and use it as an experience a stepping stone and an expensive lesson in chose ,

 

[TweezerHappy]

Is that Essential Nails? I'm not sure if hey would be able to gain insurance with that alone.

 

[Laura_Loo]

im not sure who it was with hun x and well done mizzy in being the only surviver !! )) xx

 

[mizzy_dizzy]

im not sure who it was with hun x and well done mizzy in being the only surviver !! )) xx

Thanks lol but it is only because I saw it as it was..... A start!
That's all any first course can ever be "a start" can be a good start or a bad start but it is just that lol
To many people think one course is enough this industry grows constantly and I don't think any of us should ever stop learning,

 

[wendy malley]

Well i've had a few that do nails and the advice about the" bump" in the middle, yes, we know this as the apex, coz in her Rio kit, which came with full instuctions, it didn't say you should have a bump in the middle and would it help me to see them.Perhaps i should of sent a copy to Young Nails and NSI as they seem unaware of this.Awww bless them little wanna be's. Its all probably still in the box apart from the instructions lol x

 

[brittone05]

It may well be an Essential nails course she has taken but can I just ask a question. As a start, what is wrong with someone choosing home learning over classroom based teaching?

We don't all fit from the same mould and we all learn differently. While one may thrive in a classroom, another may lag behind and be uncomfortable.

Please don't tar all home learners with the same brush - I don't produce half bad nails and am only half way through my course with EN so am one of the horrible home learners and feel very saddened that my grade of work wouldn't be classed as good enough by those lucky enough to be in a classroom

 

[Miss Pink23]

Also alot of these home learning courses will provide you with a certificate but NOT a Diploma which is what you need to gain insurance. You normally need to go to one of their training schools to complete the course by doing a practical to get the Diploma.

 

[Envylicious]

Hi,
I'm sorry that you feel so disgusted with people that apparently 'play' at being a nail technician. I have been trained with Essential Nails and yes I did all my work at home and yes I did put them on a card to be sent off and marked. Unfortunately not all people have got the time or money to go to college, especially those ladies who have full time jobs or children. Doing training this way may not be a conventional way of becoming a nail technician, but it is certainly a start in the right direction. I am a teaching assistant by trade, but unfortunately am now unable to work because of a back injury. Training this way has made it possible for me to do something which I certainly wouldn't be able to do through the normal route of going to college ( I can't drive). I am no way under the illusion that I am 'fully trained' and know that I have a long way to go before I could possibly make a career from doing nails, but I along with a lot of other people see this as the only option to becoming someone who they always wanted to be and perhaps be able to do a job that they love.

 

[Envylicious]

And yes I have got a diploma and yes I have got insurance.

 

[Laura_Loo]

nothing wrong with home learning atall ..... its the way that it is so easy to just complete a few tips and post back that i dont understand... hence asking if it would be a recognised qualification you would get... eg .. one of my friends could easily pay 4 the kit,,, get me to put the products on the tips and then post it back... get a certificate and job done. .. . if it was you learn at home as long as you want untill feel confident then have to go someone one day to have a practical assesment etcetc and have your work checked over i would understand its just the face its effortless the way that one of my customers is doing it xx

 

[Envylicious]

I can understand your anger when someone implies that home learning is easy. I can assure you it isn't. I spent hours and hours worrying and practising before I finally sent off the nails. I did pass with a credit which I am very proud of, but I am still not satisified with everything I do. As has been said before, please don't tar all home learners with the same brush, this is what I have been wanting to do for a very long time and it seemed to be the only option for me! I would like to be able to go on CND courses, but unfortunately I don't think this will be possible. Never mind, keep on practising

 

[mizzy_dizzy]

OH deer hear we go again!
Please lets not all go into the war between class based and home learning ?
Like I was trying to say a start is a start wether it is a good or bad start.

 

[NoLimitNails]

Another thing to think about is, even if you cheat and get insurance, you wont be in business for long. If you cannot produce quality nails, that lasts then eventually people don't wanna go to you... So it doesn't make me cringe, I just continue making myself better...

But as said if you consider it a start and just that, well there's nothing wrong with homelearning (other than the price because you'll have to spend much more doing further classes)

 

[angel fingers]

nothing wrong with home learning atall ..... its the way that it is so easy to just complete a few tips and post back that i dont understand... hence asking if it would be a recognised qualification you would get... eg .. one of my friends could easily pay 4 the kit,,, get me to put the products on the tips and then post it back... get a certificate and job done. .. . if it was you learn at home as long as you want untill feel confident then have to go someone one day to have a practical assesment etcetc and have your work checked over i would understand its just the face its effortless the way that one of my customers is doing it xx

i dont understand why anyone would do that though.

you may have a certificate at the end of it but you still wouldnt be able to do nails so what would it be for?

 

[brittone05]

It isn't a case of "good" and "bad" learning though is it? It is a case of what is best for the individual involved.

I don't do exceptionally well in classroom settings - I am a very quick learner and find that I get frustrated in classroom settings where I am having to wait or speed up for others. I digest written information a shed load more than I do verbal and find that I actually do better reading how to do something as opposed to being shown ( I also learnt my dressmaking this way via books and within 8 months I was making and selling corsets, wedding gowns and such like with other dressmakers approaching me to help them!)

Why should the way I do best learning be seen as "bad" by anyone then if that is the way best suited to me?

 

[NoLimitNails]

Not a case of good or bad learning. But you must agree though, that products react very differently on the trainer hand than on real hands, and lifting issues, bad prep, wrong mix-ratio etc. is something you do not encounter on the hand, neither is problems with heat friction or nicking with files, all this you have to learn afterwards, thus making it only a start...

I have a few of the EN-boks, and sorry to say, but the info is just not accurate enough, well let me put it differently, they teach methods from old days, with the new improved products so many of the more damaging things (as etching the nail) can be avoided.

But as said, as a start it's ok, but it is a start and will cost a lot (time and perhaps money as you tend to loose clients if the nails doesn't last, which isn't the case for every one I know) to learn on real hands, which would be easier if shown, or having options of training nights or 121...

 

[brittone05]

Don't get me wrong Karen I do agree that there are things about the EN course that need to be updated and such like.

I think for any student, on any course though constant education should always be at the forefront. You can't "learn" about something by only being shown and told 1 way in particular. My opinion only, of course, but to truly learn about something I am the type of person that needs to know practically every different way of doing something, the different methods and reasons behind them, the problems and the reasons, the remdies for said problems and the reasons for them too!

Maybe I just like to learn and am a bit of a sponge when it comes down to it but I don't feel that people who choose home learning are always given a fair run of it. Yes, it is a different way but that doesn't make it a wrong way. It can be more time consuming and more costly i the long run but as a starting platform, it is a great place for many to begin from