Fungal Infection In Toe Nails Help Please !!!

[Mobile Nails]

Hi everyone,

Im in a quandry. I have been a nail tech for 5 years and yesterday a friend, also a nail tech, (she doesnt do feet) passed on a pedicure to me. This friend has a fungal infection which has been confirmed by a specialist. She has been told to paint a yellow, greeny coat of some sort which has discoloured her toes a a treatment and she is desperate for pretty toes for the summer.

I know you shouldnt treat a fungal infection, but I wonder if there is anything I can do for her. I havent seen the offending toes yet, shes due tomorrow, but I said I would have a look and see what I can do. Apparently they are white and flaky, no open wounds though.

I know your probably going to say dont touch them with a barge pole, but is there anything I can do if I take all precautions. Ive asked her to bring her own nail colour.

Any help would be appreciated. I feel really sorry for this young girl.

XXX

 

[Urban Geek]

Even if you sanitise all your tools, etc, and dispose of files etc after giving her a pedi, if she is having treatment for the fungal infection, I don't think it is a good idea to cover the natural nail - I would want to be able to monitor improvement, etc.

In addition, I wouldn't do any treatment without her doctor's approval.

 

[EllaX]

I had a lady with a fungal toe (she couldnt get down to cut her nails - so i used to take the length down and file them (throwing away files afterwards and i wore latex gloves too) i used to paint her stuff the doctor gave her on too.

This thread is really helpful

http://www.salongeek.com/nail-geek/...s-exactly-what-they-how-they-transmitted.html

 

[geeg]

If you know what you are doing and all the precautions to take then you could tidy up her toes a bit, but in all honesty, I think the best thing is for this young lady to do what she has been told to do by the experts and then have another look in a couple of months and get a recommendation from the person who is treating her condition, and when summer is here and she wants to get her toes out into the open air you may be able to pretty them up for her..

 

[nancyx25]

If you know what you are doing and all the precautions to take then you could tidy up her toes a bit, but in all honesty, I think the best thing is for this young lady to do what she has been told to do by the experts and then have another look in a couple of months and get a recommendation from the person who is treating her condition, and when summer is here and she wants to get her toes out into the open air you may be able to pretty them up for her..

very thrue!
I was told when training for pedicures that you can in fact give a pedicure if you use precaution, sanitize well and throw out the files when done, but was also told that no nail polish should be used on top of the infection. This will act as a barrier and the product she is using will not penetrate the infected area. If she wants to cure it, she should avoid nail polish, and just stick with the threatment for now,
but you could give her a spa treatment, cut the nails, take off the calluses, have everything tidied up! when her threatment is done and the infection gone, you can then make the toes all pretty!

Also, even if you use her nail polish, don't forget she could then use this polish on her nails, or other toe nails and spread the infection around...polish is just not a good idea at all with infections:Scared:

 

[Mobile Nails]

Thank you for your very helpful replies.

I am seeing her today and I will take your advice and not use nail varnish, so I can monitor them. If I give her a spa pedi she may feel a little bit pampered and hopefully motivated to keep on with the treatment.

Thanks again!

X

 

[Mobile Nails]

Thanks Gigi,

Your advice is much appreciated.

X

 

[huberella]

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Also, even if you use her nail polish, don't forget she could then use this polish on her nails, or other toe nails and spread the infection around...polish is just not a good idea at all with infections:Scared:

Actually, fungus cannot survive in nail polish, so there is no risk of spreading it that way. The only reason to not polish the nail is so that you can monitor the infection. But also remember that even once the infection itself is killed, the damaged nail still has to grow out, so it will probably stay yellow for as long as it takes to grow a new nail (aprox 18months).

 

[nancyx25]

Actually, fungus cannot survive in nail polish, so there is no risk of spreading it that way. The only reason to not polish the nail is so that you can monitor the infection. But also remember that even once the infection itself is killed, the damaged nail still has to grow out, so it will probably stay yellow for as long as it takes to grow a new nail (aprox 18months).

Are you sure about that?...I was thought quite the opposite. I was told that ANYTHING that comes in contact with the fungus can spread it around, and to get rid of anything that comes in contact with it...

Does anyone else has info on this?

Anyhow, I wouldnt take the chance of using nail polish that has been used on an infected toe!!:irked:

 

[JDs]

Actually, fungus cannot survive in nail polish, so there is no risk of spreading it that way. The only reason to not polish the nail is so that you can monitor the infection. But also remember that even once the infection itself is killed, the damaged nail still has to grow out, so it will probably stay yellow for as long as it takes to grow a new nail (aprox 18months).

Huberella~ Do you know what is in nail polish that fungus cannot survive in it? Of should I say, what is NOT in nail polish that fungus needs to survive?:idea:

 

[EllaX]

there is no water in polish so i presumed bacteria could not survive in it? am i right? x

 

[Kim Lawless]

I tried everything for 4 years and nothing worked, until I heard a doc on the telly say that PURE coconut oil is the only thing that works for fungal nails..............and it's really lovely to use. Just rub in on top and around the nail. That was a few months ago and it's finally gone. To be honest, I didn't use it that many times either. I bought a big tub from Holland & Barratt for a tenner but I'm sure you can get it cheaper but make sure it's PURE.

xx

 

[JDs]

I tried everything for 4 years and nothing worked, until I heard a doc on the telly say that PURE coconut oil is the only thing that works for fungal nails..............and it's really lovely to use. Just rub in on top and around the nail. That was a few months ago and it's finally gone. To be honest, I didn't use it that many times either. I bought a big tub from Holland & Barratt for a tenner but I'm sure you can get it cheaper but make sure it's PURE.

xx

Well that is one that I never heard of. Thanks for sharing.

 

[EllaX]

I tried everything for 4 years and nothing worked, until I heard a doc on the telly say that PURE coconut oil is the only thing that works for fungal nails..............and it's really lovely to use. Just rub in on top and around the nail. That was a few months ago and it's finally gone. To be honest, I didn't use it that many times either. I bought a big tub from Holland & Barratt for a tenner but I'm sure you can get it cheaper but make sure it's PURE.

xx

gonna recommend this next time i have a fungal client x

 

[huberella]

Huberella~ Do you know what is in nail polish that fungus cannot survive in it? Of should I say, what is NOT in nail polish that fungus needs to survive?:idea:

In order for a fungus to grow it requires specific conditions... one of those conditions is water. without it, it will not grow. polish does not contain water.

 

[VHunter]

About 2yrs ago, I fell going 'up' the stairs. Yes, stupid I tripped over the cat. I put out my hands to break my fall, and caught my thumbnail on the back of a step (riser?) It hurt like you know what @#$%^&*(

The next day, I could see it had seperated from the nailbed except for a smidgeon at the lunula. I cropped it short and kept a bandaid on it, to keep it from catching further.

Next I knew, I had a greenie under there, because water could get in, but couldn't get dried out.
I went to the doc, and got pills and cream.
They did NOTHING. I guess because water just kept getting under there and I couldn't keep it dry.

BUT what did work was PURE TEA-TREE OIL. YES, that simple. I put 2-3 drops about 2-3 times a day at the free edge and let it dribble underneath.
In no time at all, that greenie was dead and gone.
BUT it has to be the pure stuff, and not the diluted crap that they sell at some places. (if you know anyone selling Melaleuca, GET SOME, that's the BEST)

I swear by tea-tree oil for many things. I have a bottle in each bathroom and carry one in my purse.
But for greenies, it's GUARANTEED to kill them!! I've NEVER ONCE seen it fail.
AND it also works on athletes foot and other infections.

I will guarantee that if she uses tea-tree oil, that infection will be gone! Or I'll eat my socks. (yuck ) LOL

Hth's

 

[nailzoo]

About 2yrs ago, I fell going 'up' the stairs. Yes, stupid I tripped over the cat. I put out my hands to break my fall, and caught my thumbnail on the back of a step (riser?) It hurt like you know what @#$%^&*(

The next day, I could see it had seperated from the nailbed except for a smidgeon at the lunula. I cropped it short and kept a bandaid on it, to keep it from catching further.

Next I knew, I had a greenie under there, because water could get in, but couldn't get dried out.
I went to the doc, and got pills and cream.
They did NOTHING. I guess because water just kept getting under there and I couldn't keep it dry.

BUT what did work was PURE TEA-TREE OIL. YES, that simple. I put 2-3 drops about 2-3 times a day at the free edge and let it dribble underneath.
In no time at all, that greenie was dead and gone.
BUT it has to be the pure stuff, and not the diluted crap that they sell at some places. (if you know anyone selling Melaleuca, GET SOME, that's the BEST)

I swear by tea-tree oil for many things. I have a bottle in each bathroom and carry one in my purse.
But for greenies, it's GUARANTEED to kill them!! I've NEVER ONCE seen it fail.
AND it also works on athletes foot and other infections.

I will guarantee that if she uses tea-tree oil, that infection will be gone! Or I'll eat my socks. (yuck ) LOL

Hth's

I agree about Tea Tree oil, it's fab, but be careful, it can cause the skin to dry out and crack (which can create a new problem), i find a 20% solution works a treat (thats why you will more often find 20% than pure oil on sale).

Something just as good and even cheaper is good ol Listerine, it contains Thymol .

 

[nicky's nails]

ooh pure coconut, pure tea tree or listerine im gonna try this on my hubby he has the most awful fungal infection on his toe, its just a bruise he says, but its not , so im gonna try these things thanks guys xxx