L&P curing too quickly

[femmefan]

I have a client whose hands and nails are always extremely hot so that even when using a very wet bead I don't have enough time to work before it hardens too much. It's so fast that by the time I've spread the bead in zone 2 from sidewall to sidewall the top and bottom is too solid to smooth out :cry:

I've tried keeping my room very cool, opening windows, using a cooling fan, even asking the client if she minds striping down to her t-shirt :lol: I've also tried cooling the monomer slightly before starting to work on her. All these measures do seem to help a little but not enough to stop me feeling like crying when it comes to all the filing afterwards :irked:

Is there anything I can add to the monomer to increase the workability without upsetting the mix? I'm beginning to dread her fortnightly re-balances.

Hazel

 

[angel fingers]

maybe try applying smaller beads and do more of them. you should be able to spread them out in time if they are little.

perhaps your brand has a slower setting monomer you could get ?

 

[femmefan]

maybe try applying smaller beads and do more of them. you should be able to spread them out in time if they are little. Good suggestion - I'll try this, but being inexperienced I hope it doesn't end up looking like a patchwork quilt :lol:

perhaps your brand has a slower setting monomer you could get ? using NSI Attraction so there doesn't seem to be an alternative

By the way Angel Fingers, this is the same client whose coloured gel overlay kept cracking off. I did finally get it to stay on by using a layer of clear l&p under, but then a week later she got a chip in the gel and decided to remove them herself She came in for her infill appointment sporting bare nails and expected me to do her a full new set at the infill price :irked:

 

[mdskora]

Oh doesn't that make you cranky.. I have had plenty of those " they fell" off clients..
I also have clients that make a time for a rebalance.. and then want a soak off and new set for the same price... in an hour! are they joking me..

I would also try and work with smaller beads.. if you are not smoothing out in time it would make it much easier for you..

Good luck with her next time she comes in for a rebalance
Mel

 

[fifitrix]

I would ask Sandi(ValenciaNails) or other geeks that work in a hot country they will be able to advise you as they have a nightmare with ratios in severe heat.

hth

 

[geeg]

Severe heat is a great learning tool and can really help you to speed up your application time. :lol: Do the same thing you do .... only quicker!

Multi bead will also work and it's the way I was taught to apply many years ago but I would just speed up girl!

 

[adelekeegan1]

Severe heat is a great learning tool and can really help you to speed up your application time. :lol: Do the same thing you do .... only quicker!

Multi bead will also work and it's the way I was taught to apply many years ago but I would just speed up girl!

That is great advice..........but I'm going as fast as I can godammit:green:

 

[geeg]

That poor giraffe ... I feel so sorry for him. :cry:

 

[PinkPotions]

Would PopIts not be better for this client?

 

[Doorie]

Severe heat is a great learning tool and can really help you to speed up your application time. :lol: Do the same thing you do .... only quicker!

Multi bead will also work and it's the way I was taught to apply many years ago but I would just speed up girl!

I would of said that too...

the cooling monomere option may not me that good, as it can make it look crystalized :s

 

[ValencianNails]

Did someone mention L+P and severe heat??? :grr: (that subject is out of bounds in my house lol)

I've started to do my smile lines in 2 beads because otherwise the white was setting before I had time to do anything with it.

This might sound a bit strange, but would it be possible for you to use a hot water bottle and put in freezing cold water, wrap in a towel and have your client place her hands on it before you begin application?
Just trying to think of how you could reduce the heat of her hands :wink2:

 

[~Emmsybabes~]

Nsi attraction is a fast setting product,
I think a slower setting one would help you,

You could also give nsi a ring they may be able to help you regarding slowing down the setting time,

I remember on my conversion the lady said you have much more time to work with it as long as you are constantly manipulating the product,
The second you take your brush away, it starts to set.

It sometimes sets on me too before I have finished in normal condititions and I am like ..

"I AM NOT REEEEAAADDYYYY"

 

[fidev]

Nsi attraction is a fast setting product,
I think a slower setting one would help you,

You could also give nsi a ring they may be able to help you regarding slowing down the setting time,

Hi, Nsi classic powders have a much slower setting time than the competition ones.

 

[femmefan]

Severe heat is a great learning tool and can really help you to speed up your application time. :lol: Do the same thing you do .... only quicker!

Multi bead will also work and it's the way I was taught to apply many years ago but I would just speed up girl!

I'm trying, I'm trying :lol: but tbh I'm not actually that slow with application for a beginner, most of my extra time is spent with overly thorough prep. To put the speed of curing into context - pick up bead of product, place on nail, wait 3 secs to settle....hey hang on a mo, what do you mean you've decided I've finished 3 secs is about all you get so forget the settling time. Can I do a smile line in 3 secs? I wish

 

[femmefan]

Hi, Nsi classic powders have a much slower setting time than the competition ones.

Can't find these in the latest catalogue, I'll have to give them a ring and find out but it may not be cost effective buying a different powder just for one awkward client. Curing times are not a problem with anyone else. Thanks for the suggestion though.

Hazel

 

[femmefan]

Did someone mention L+P and severe heat??? :grr: (that subject is out of bounds in my house lol)

I've started to do my smile lines in 2 beads because otherwise the white was setting before I had time to do anything with it.

This might sound a bit strange, but would it be possible for you to use a hot water bottle and put in freezing cold water, wrap in a towel and have your client place her hands on it before you begin application?
Just trying to think of how you could reduce the heat of her hands :wink2:

After my own experience I have renewed respect for anyone who works with l&p in a hot country - you must be a masochist :lol:
I might just have a go at the reverse hot water bottle trick, thanks.

Hazel

 

[Doorie]

After my own experience I have renewed respect for anyone who works with l&p in a hot country - you must be a masochist :lol:
I might just have a go at the reverse hot water bottle trick, thanks.

Hazel

find a temp EQ... it's just so easy...

as for the bottle trick, I'd say it can work, I do the opposite in winter and it makes the job.

 

[femmefan]

find a temp EQ... it's just so easy...

as for the bottle trick, I'd say it can work, I do the opposite in winter and it makes the job.

Just asked on another thread about your temp EQ - I've not heard or seen one of these. It sounds interesting, any more info?

Thanks

 

[femmefan]

Would PopIts not be better for this client?

Didn't think of this, but actually that sounds like an excellent idea. I was thinking of having a play with popits but was waiting till the Event in October (thinking there will probably be a demo). Maybe I'll have to get some earlier.

Thanks for the suggestion,

Hazel