My tips keep splitting/lack of training/insurance/cowboys

[Kayley]

Hiya,

i use CND velocity clear tips, and they keep slitting down the middle. Does anyone know why this keeps happening?? Does anyone else have the kind of problem? And what tips do u recommend i change to?

I'm not a nail technician, i do gel nails on myself and my friends just as a little hobby (but i might do a course soon so i can branch out a bit more) - so i'm self taught (on youtube mostly!) on how to apply tips, file them down & apply the gel.

Thank you xx

 

[Klassy Klaws]

Hi well hun you really answered your own question, you are not a trained nail technician and are not trained to use the products.
As you wont be able to buy these from an authorised distributor how can you guarantee you are getting true CND Velocity tips which are a very high quality.

I would suggest if you love doing nails you go out and invest in some fantastic training :hug:

 

[mum]

Hi Kayley

I'm sure you're enthusiastic about your nails but this is a site for professionals. No professional should be giving a 'hobbyist' information to take the place of proper training. That's how we earn our living: by doing it better than consumers can do it themselves. Why would we teach you for free?

I'm afraid you'll have to put up with the problems until you do a training course or keep looking at impersonal vids on Youtube.

Sorry, but I'm sure you wouldn't like your hair coloured by someone who has watched Youtube. Well maybe you would but would have to live with the problems :wink2:

 

[abicrunch]

Hiya,

i use CND velocity clear tips, and they keep slitting down the middle. Does anyone know why this keeps happening?? Does anyone else have the kind of problem? And what tips do u recommend i change to?

I'm not a nail technician, i do gel nails on myself and my friends just as a little hobby (but i might do a course soon so i can branch out a bit more) - so i'm self taught (on youtube mostly!) on how to apply tips, file them down & apply the gel.

Thank you xx

Hi
Creative are very good tips, you are using tips that are the wrong size, these are probably too small. Try a bigger size and file the edge down. This should solve the problem.

 

[Kayley]

"klassy klaws" & "mum" - as i said before, i intend to do a course very soon. I didn't see the point in spending 300 odd pound on a course that i didn't know if i'd be good at. So bought an IBD kit, practiced abit with the instructions provided - saw that i was good at applying tips & gels & enjoyed doing it. I work full time as it is, & i don't foresee a career change to be a nail technician as it'd be a big drop in wages. So at first, i didn't want to waste the money until i knew for defo i wanted to carry on doing nails.

as for the nails splitting, i got it wrong - it wasn't a Velocity tip that had split, it was a Profile tip. But thank you 'abicrunch' for the advise, i will use a bigger size & file it down

 

[marioned]

Just a friendly word of warning. If you damage your own nails, fair enough, there is only yourself to blame. If you damage a "friend's" nails, they may not turn out to be such a friend and sue the pants off you, as you are obviously working without insurance. Either that or you go could through life with a friend with no fingernail due to your error.

 

[mum]

Good luck with your training and new career. It's good you enjoy it so much.

Abicrunch, there are soooo many more reasons that a tip can crack!! You make it sound like this is the only possible problem.

 

[Unique Nails09]

Just a friendly word of warning. If you damage your own nails, fair enough, there is only yourself to blame. If you damage a "friend's" nails, they may not turn out to be such a friend and sue the pants off you, as you are obviously working without insurance. Either that or you go could through life with a friend with no fingernail due to your error.

Gosh this doesn't sound friendly at all, give the girl a chance, i doubt her 'friend' will walk away with a missing fingernail, my god she'd have to make some serious errors to do that. The trouble with this forum (though i value it highly) is that if anyone dares make a simple statement that is not agreeable they are shot down in flames.

She hasn't said she's opened shop and is carrying out enhancements on clients without any professional training, she's simply asked a question about tips!

yes she should enroll into some training and until she does its difficult to advise her as she perhaps doesn't know the correct procedures for application but jeeez - no ones going to die!

Good luck hun xx

 

[Nataliya]

No one is going to die, self learning is good too. But if she is going to learn the wrong way how difficult would it be to learn properly afterwards.

How many badly trained techs out there already? Too many. We do not want to encourage girls to learn themselves to do their own nails or their friends, who will never ever will consider getting nails done after due to the damage sustained during hobby nail making!!!!!

It affects the industry. The fact that products get sold to people without training is shocking!

We want to advance and improve the state of the industry and not ruin it!

So please keep the suggestions away!

 

[Unique Nails09]

sorry bit confused here - what suggestions? We are all in agreement that professional training is crucial and yes we don't want people marauding as nail techs with no experience or knowledge, but sometimes all that is necessary is to say as many have done on this thread - GET SOME TRAINING and not harsh replies such as YOUR FRIENDS NAILS WILL FALL OFF!!!!

Good luck chuck on your journey to being a nail tech, it is vital to have training to a high standard, there are millions of things to learn about nails, its anatomy, diseases/disorders, correct application methods it is a tricky industry and there is so much you need to know - i'm still learning things after 7 years - it is ongoing, but brilliant!

 

[kimi1101]

I don't think it is unfair to say "worst case scenario is your friend may sue you or she may lose a nail" because people need to know what the worst case scenario is in this situation, and as the girl has said, she hasn't had formal training so may not know that permanent nail damage may happen. I'm not a nail geek but a hair geek and I find it very difficult to take people saying "i'm not a hair geek but i dye my hair myself and it went wrong last time...." because really the only advice is to go on formal training to improve on what you have already learent.

To the OP...if you feel you've got a natural flair for this, there is nothing to stop you from doing this on evenings or weekends after you've done your training, and could make a healthy extra to your full time wages. good luck with it all (and sorry I have jumped into this thread but I feel some of the earlier posts were extremely valid)

 

[Susie H]

I don't think it is unfair to say "worst case scenario is your friend may sue you or she may lose a nail" because people need to know what the worst case scenario is in this situation, and as the girl has said, she hasn't had formal training so may not know that permanent nail damage may happen. I'm not a nail geek but a hair geek and I find it very difficult to take people saying "i'm not a hair geek but i dye my hair myself and it went wrong last time...." because really the only advice is to go on formal training to improve on what you have already learent.

To the OP...if you feel you've got a natural flair for this, there is nothing to stop you from doing this on evenings or weekends after you've done your training, and could make a healthy extra to your full time wages. good luck with it all (and sorry I have jumped into this thread but I feel some of the earlier posts were extremely valid)

So true and well put.

 

[Unique Nails09]

Very true, it is shocking nowadays the amount of people who operate as professionals who have had no formal training so in this case i suppose shock tactics need to be applied.

I suppose i can sympathise with those who want to make a career but feel they want to try it out first on friends to see if they have a flair for it, unfortunately they do not know the risks involved to the 'friends' they practice on as they simply haven't learnt what could happen.

It gets me where products can be purchased with no evidence of training, there should be stricter regulations especially on online shops, i have ordered off several nail tech sites and only a handfull of times been asked for proof of qualification

 

[Susie H]

I'll give an example, I am a nail tech, I consider my training to have taken with some of the best companies and the best peeps in the country.
I however have never used an acid primer and because of that I never gave it a thought.
Until a geek posted pics of her arm after she spilled some on herself, she needed skin grafts.
I know of a few sites that sell acid primer and as stated proof of quals is not required. The damage that could be done to the skin surounding the nails by this product would be damaging in the extreme. Imagine if the client had a hang nail as well, or a paper cut:Scared:
If you've not been on a course, not covered health and safety, not covered haz chem, not been shown (and had it drumed into you) the safe way to do prep work, sorry would be a very weak word for the permanent damage done.
Another one, we all know that wearing contact lenses is a no no because of the dust from filing, but is that info in a try me kit?
Cross contamination? It's all there in our training for a very good reason.
There is a lot that we do in our job without thinking, because we have been trained, it keeps us safe and it keeps our clients safe.
Quiet simply if you haven't had the training you don't know the questions to ask a client, doesn't matter if you are charging that client or working on a friend for free, these questions still need to be asked, the visual examinaition still needs to be made, tools still need to be cleaned to a set standard.
We are not being snobs when we talk about training, we are working smart, working safe.

 

[handzonu]

I have stopped using CND tips because of splitting down the middle. I was also told it could be a dull tip cutter blade. Try a new blade if using tip cutters.

Good Luck in school!:wink2:

 

[geeg]

I have stopped using CND tips because of splitting down the middle. I was also told it could be a dull tip cutter blade. Try a new blade if using tip cutters.

Good Luck in school!:wink2:

Absolutely amazing!! I have used CND tips for 25 years and never EVER had a problem with tips splitting ... NEVER. Perhaps it is something else causing it rather than a fault of the tips?? Not only have I used CND tips for 25 years, but I have sold them for more than 20 years and splitting has never been an issue for customers or clients ... regarded as some of the best tips in the world. I think I would revisit what you are doing with them rather than placing the blame at that particular door. :suprised:

 

[LOU LOU]

Hi there all,

I'm at college doing a 17 week evening course. Would you consider doing an evening course as you work full time hun?

I would like to add something though which does concern me a little bit, well a lot actually, lol. Someone has said that what damage can be done, well I have really damaged two of my nails by overblending and that was after being shown by my tutor how to blend. When I was blending, I didn't feel a thing and it wasn't until I removed the tips I realised what damage I had caused to myself. I'm very lucky that it wasn't on anyone else because they look awful. I have caused my own nail plate to lift considerably! I just think people need to realise what damage can be caused by just a file! Yes i'm very new to this and have only been doing this course since the beginning of Feb.

Also, I have taken out insurance because in this day and age, we are becoming a nation of compensation claims and you might think that you are ok making mistakes on friends, but trust me, some so called friends wouldn't think twice about sueing the arse off you.

I'll try and post a piccy of the damage I have done to myself in a while. I just can't get a decent enuff piccy at the moment to show the extent of the damage I have done to myself though.

Sorry, forgot to add ............ one of the reasons why the tip maybe splitting is because the tip is too long. I'm no expert, (obviously, lol) but that is just one of the reasons we were told by our tutor for tips to split.

x

 

[LOU LOU]

Absolutely amazing!! I have used CND tips for 25 years and never EVER had a problem with tips splitting ... NEVER. Perhaps it is something else causing it rather than a fault of the tips?? Not only have I used CND tips for 25 years, but I have sold them for more than 20 years and splitting has never been an issue for customers or clients ... regarded as some of the best tips in the world. I think I would revisit what you are doing with them rather than placing the blame at that particular door. :suprised:

I was talking to my tutor yesterday and mentioned about CND tips and various other things and she agrees completely. CND are fantastic tips and she highly recommends them. I'm definitely going to start using those in the future.

 

[mannipatch]

I'll give an example, I am a nail tech, I consider my training to have taken with some of the best companies and the best peeps in the country.
I however have never used an acid primer and because of that I never gave it a thought.
Until a geek posted pics of her arm after she spilled some on herself, she needed skin grafts.
I know of a few sites that sell acid primer and as stated proof of quals is not required. The damage that could be done to the skin surounding the nails by this product would be damaging in the extreme. Imagine if the client had a hang nail as well, or a paper cut:Scared:
If you've not been on a course, not covered health and safety, not covered haz chem, not been shown (and had it drumed into you) the safe way to do prep work, sorry would be a very weak word for the permanent damage done.
Another one, we all know that wearing contact lenses is a no no because of the dust from filing, but is that info in a try me kit?
Cross contamination? It's all there in our training for a very good reason.
There is a lot that we do in our job without thinking, because we have been trained, it keeps us safe and it keeps our clients safe.
Quiet simply if you haven't had the training you don't know the questions to ask a client, doesn't matter if you are charging that client or working on a friend for free, these questions still need to be asked, the visual examinaition still needs to be made, tools still need to be cleaned to a set standard.
We are not being snobs when we talk about training, we are working smart, working safe.

100% agree :biggrin:

 

[Kayley]

Thank you for those who have stuck up for me. Some of these comments have upset me abit - being really blunt & shooting me down - but i understand that when you have trained and you do this professionally, it does irritate you to see an amateur doing it on the side and not knowing how to do everything "properly" & the risks involved. But like i said, i didn't want to spend £300+ on a course without sampling out the act. I couldn't afford to waste my money if i didn't enjoy doing it. So i purchased an IBD kit, and my friend owns a salon. Shes a qualified nail tech & she showed me how to do gel nails & the stuff i needed that wasn't in my kit. And before any of you say "well, watching someone who is qualified doesn't make you qualified" i know that!! She simply showed me, and i don't go round saying i'm a nail tech. I have only really done gel nails on myself - i have very nice long natural nails, but unfortunately one will break at the worst possible time (mainly before a night out!!) so i thought if i stuck a tip on & do a gel nail i'd have a full hand of nice nails. So thats how it all started really... Then i told my friend i wanted to learn to do gel nails and she said i could practice on her. I've only done her a full set once. And she loved them. She said i didn't hurt her, i was really careful and she has encouraged me to do a course to give me that extra confidence. I know there are risks, but that's the case in everything in life now. Yes, i'd like to know what the risk are & how to make sure these can be prevented - but even with full knowledge, mistakes are made. Eg: how many times have u gone for a colour at the hairdressers & they've done a skin test? I've NEVER had this done & luckily nothing has ever gone wrong. But you never know how someones skin is gona react until after the application etc.
I do intend to do a course, i just can't afford it at the moment. And other than my friend Amy, i doubt i will do anyone elses nails other than my own.

Btw - how much is insurance??

I'm starting to wish i had just left my original message as "my tips keep splitting, help!!" and not mentioned i wasn't trained