Teeth whitening course?

[Princessstacie]

Does anyone know where i can find out about training in teeth whitening. A salon near me has introduced it and has become HUGELY popular.
So was thinking of maybe doing myself? xx

 

[kylieb]

im sure i saw it in the ellisons catalogue. They were doing courses in it xxx

 

[Princessstacie]

Cant seem to find it hun? xx

 

[kylieb]

Havent checked the new book maybe they have changed it. Hmmm its so blimin hard to find a course unless you are a dentist!! I was also looking xxx

 

[tog]

Wouldn't touch it myself. . . leave it to the experts ie DENTISTS/DENTAL NURSES.

What if something goes wrong and you cause damage to a client's teeth? can you imagine how much they would sue you for? And goodness know where you'd get insurance from as a beauty therapist, and if you did how much that would cost you.

I saw a documentary a few months ago about people who had had teeth whitening in salons, and the problems it caused to their teeth. Apparently girls were carrying it out in salons when there should have been a medical professional present, and selling aftercare treatments too without giving proper advice. This was all illegal.

So my advice would be don't touch it with a bargepole, unless you have a qualification in dentistry.
After all, would you go to your dentist and get the receptionist to wax your bikini line or do your nails if the surgery was offering it as a sideline? I don't think so.

 

[RedAdmiral]

I have just started to offer Crystal White Teeth Whitening and was trained a month ago. My insurance does cover it and I'm lucky to say I know more than most about it as it is my Dad's company and he is a Dental Technician specialising in cosmetic dentistry :green: My Dad has been performing cosmetic teeth whitening for god knows how long and has researched his new venture (bringing as painless and quick a procedure to the beauty industry) thoroughly. There are countless ways to lighten teeth, the strongest way is by painting 'hydrogen peroxide' onto teeth and activating which can only be done by dentists and contains high levels of hydrogen peroxide, then come the cosmetic whitening which is assisted, contains lower levels of HP, is shorter in duration and lastly are the home kits. Over the counter levels allowing you to 'sleep' and whiten. all 3 types can have the same effects on teeth and gums. A proper consultation is needed and if the client has any doubts about their dental history then they can go to their dentist before hand.

As for Tog - I wouldnt believe everything you saw on TV and for the record my dentist is one of the top dentist in London (winner of countless awards and industry recognition) and she performs botox!!!
Any kind of procedure can have bad side affects, problems and may require further information. That's part of our jobs, I've broken out from wax - actually been burnt with wax, oh and I've had my armpit ripped out and it hurt and bled! There are many more advanced treatments out there that therapists carry out all the time - micro dermabrasion, fillers, peels etc why dont we leave these things to dermatologist?
Its all about education yourself and your clients so before you take any kind of system on make sure you do your homework.

 

[The Guild]

You should check with your insurance company before starting a teeth whitening course, as many currently do not cover the treatment.

 

[Miss_B]

Wouldn't touch it myself. . . leave it to the experts ie DENTISTS/DENTAL NURSES.

What if something goes wrong and you cause damage to a client's teeth? can you imagine how much they would sue you for? And goodness know where you'd get insurance from as a beauty therapist, and if you did how much that would cost you.

I saw a documentary a few months ago about people who had had teeth whitening in salons, and the problems it caused to their teeth. Apparently girls were carrying it out in salons when there should have been a medical professional present, and selling aftercare treatments too without giving proper advice. This was all illegal.

So my advice would be don't touch it with a bargepole, unless you have a qualification in dentistry.
After all, would you go to your dentist and get the receptionist to wax your bikini line or do your nails if the surgery was offering it as a sideline? I don't think so.

I have to agree with you..
I would never go to anyone but a dentist for tooth whitening.

 

[lady R]

I have to admit I have been asked a lot for it and would like to do it too. Does the Guild insure it?

 

[The Guild]

I have to admit I have been asked a lot for it and would like to do it too. Does the Guild insure it?

I'm afraid that the Guild cannot offer insurance for teeth whitening.

 

[RedAdmiral]

AIT can and do.
I'm sorry but maybe its because I grew up around teeth but why would you not go to anyone except your dentist? skin resurfacing by microdermabrasion is agressive and painful (in my experience) I didnt question my therapists qualification and I dont see the difference and this was my face were talking about! teeth can be sensitive as faces what kind of damaging do you think can be caused? I just dont get it - a beauty therapist can train in fillers, skin surfacing, chemicals to be applied to the face - believe it or not there are not that many factors that can prevent a teeth whitening procedure from going ahead it really is pretty straight forward. You are not asked to diagnose or treat any problems that exist in the mouth, just assist in a whitening procedure. The same problems (if you are going to get any) can result if you sleep with the solution in your mouth, have it applied by me or go to your dentist. If any problems happen when in your dentist chair what do you think he will do to 'save' you?

 

[wowbb]

Teethwhitening is a fantastic treatment if done right, but be careful as the law has changed recently (in recently I mean about a year ago) and now the only amount allowed in teethwhitening for cosmetic or medically approved products is below what some of the toothpastes contain. So make sure that the product you use is appoved by the authorities as they have clamped down very hard. Hth :hug:

 

[tog]

AIT can and do.
skin resurfacing by microdermabrasion is agressive and painful (in my experience) I didnt question my therapists qualification and I dont see the difference and this was my face were talking about!

I just dont get it - a beauty therapist can train in fillers, skin surfacing, chemicals to be applied to the face - ?

Can a beauty therapist be trained in these procedures? I don't think so . . I believe you need a medical qualification. For instance, at my friend's salon a nurse carries out sclerotherapy once a week and a doctor has to attend each time as a legal requirement.

And even if you don't need a medical background, I wouldn't go to a beauty therapist for these "paramedical" type treatments, and I WOULD ask about my practitioner's qualifications.

Clients I know who have had collagen, botox, and chemical peels have all gone to a specialist clinic and not a salon. I'm sorry, it's just my opinion but I'd prefer a dentist for my teeth and a cosmetic surgeon/nurse to administer my Botox.

 

[junejuno]

Just for everyones information, you have to be a registered nurse, midwife, Dr or dentist to administer Botox. Training institutions offering courses only take on trainees that are registered with the appropriate governing bodies to practice in the medical field.

So if Botox is being offered anywhere, whether it's a clinic, surgery or salon, then all practitioners will be qualified to do it. If you are having Botox treatments always checkout the person doing the treatments, they should be more than happy to show their certificates etc.

 

[Bonkers]

why not contact local dentists that offer botox and whitening and see if they wanted to do a clinic once or twice a week or whatever is required at your salon and take a percentage for the referal.

I am just about to start working with a cosmetic dentist after he approached me about doing something similar I mention to clients that we now offer a botox or teeth whitening service and if they are interested i pass the referal onto him and he gives me 15%

pretty easy money for just passing on a name and number. I only work mobile for the time being but the dentist I work with is also engaged to a nurse so they offer their treatments mobile as well as at the surgery I think.


Also in my opinion I would never go to anyone but a dentist for teeth whitening, he did go through the whole proceedure with me and told me that for teeth whitening people often need to visit their own dentist for a scale and polish and make sure their teeth and gums are healthy enough for teeth whitening as it isnt just a simple proceedure and teeth and gums are very important.

Another thing I also found out - legally you are not allowed to advertise botox as 'BOTOX' in any sort of literature, correct terminology should be used so all the salons near me with signs saying BOTOX HERE NOW are actually not following guidelines.

sorry went on a little there.

If there is anyone in the manchester areas that does want fillers or whitening or thinking about offering it in their salon please pm me. i can pass your details on.

 

[daisyl]

Can a beauty therapist be trained in these procedures? I don't think so . . I believe you need a medical qualification. For instance, at my friend's salon a nurse carries out sclerotherapy once a week and a doctor has to attend each time as a legal requirement.

And even if you don't need a medical background, I wouldn't go to a beauty therapist for these "paramedical" type treatments, and I WOULD ask about my practitioner's qualifications.

Clients I know who have had collagen, botox, and chemical peels have all gone to a specialist clinic and not a salon. I'm sorry, it's just my opinion but I'd prefer a dentist for my teeth and a cosmetic surgeon/nurse to administer my Botox.

Very well said - and you are correct. Although it is not a legal requirement a doctor is present in the case of a nurse practitioner if they are also registered NIP (meaning they are also legally qualified to prescribe any prescription medication - which I am).

As far as fillers - massive big gaping hole in the industry which WILL be stopped in due course. Chemical Peels - medical grade chemical peels are prescription only - and therefore illegal for anyone other than already stated to perform. You sound very sensible and professional. I do not perform teeth whitening because I am NOT a dentist and therefore have a professional duty of care NOT to perform procedures outside of my remit. If I wish for my teeth to be whitened, I would rather pay more for a 'professional' result. You get what you pay for! The British Dental Association have also recently written guidelines regarding the 'promotion' of Botox as a practice within Dental surgeries. It should not happen! - not my words - theirs!

Leave these procedures to the professionals - if your clients want professional teeth whitening - refer them to a cosmetic dentist. Do the right thing!

 

[daisyl]

Just for everyones information, you have to be a registered nurse, midwife, Dr or dentist to administer Botox. Training institutions offering courses only take on trainees that are registered with the appropriate governing bodies to practice in the medical field.

So if Botox is being offered anywhere, whether it's a clinic, surgery or salon, then all practitioners will be qualified to do it. If you are having Botox treatments always checkout the person doing the treatments, they should be more than happy to show their certificates etc.

Absolutely correct. Well said.

 

[daisyl]

Also in my opinion I would never go to anyone but a dentist for teeth whitening, he did go through the whole proceedure with me and told me that for teeth whitening people often need to visit their own dentist for a scale and polish and make sure their teeth and gums are healthy enough for teeth whitening as it isnt just a simple proceedure and teeth and gums are very important.

Another thing I also found out - legally you are not allowed to advertise botox as 'BOTOX' in any sort of literature, correct terminology should be used so all the salons near me with signs saying BOTOX HERE NOW are actually not following guidelines.

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Again this is correct. BOTOX is actually the trade name of just one, of several, wrinkle reducing injections available. It is also prescription medication. It is illegal to advertise and promote prescription only medicine, although many, many do.

Clinics get around this by for instance advertising - wrinkle reducing injections (commonly known as botox). Salons with signs displaying BOTOX HERE NOW - well, just stay away from!

 

[junejuno]

Red Admiral,

Can you tell me who AIT are please with regard to insurance for teeth whitening?

 

[Lynne Baker]

Associated Irish Therapists
there ya go!