Untrained technician working

[BeautyPrincess.]

Hiya everyone

So i went to a salon to get my nails done and i got chatting to the girl about work, i told her i had my own shop and she was asking questions such as it expensive to run etc.. she told me she would love to open one and asked if i displayed my certificates, i told her i did and she pulled a face, i was abit confused so i asked her what was wrong, she then went on to tell me that she didnt have a certificate as she trained herself however she was covered with insurance, is this allowed? i thought you had to have a certificate and the correct training!! .. and incase you's were wondering, my nails actually looked gorgeous and i was really impressed!

x

 

[loubylou]

As far as i know you have to have a recognised certificate to be able to get insurance,
i would have asked who the insurance was with.

 

[geeg]

Some people have a natural talent .. it happens. If she is lucky enough to have this natural talent, then she should do something about it and learn the rest. It usually takes more than talent to be a true professional.

 

[***juice***]

I got a pedicure today (on the spur of the moment for £7 when I was getting my hair done!) and whilst I was upstairs getting it done was a bit alarmed to hear that the therapists were all in the side room, "learning how to do gel nails from a video" What the hell!

They were also being dead unprofessional in front of me (a customer), about other customers. Shan't be doing that again!

 

[angel fingers]

id say that leaves her in a tricky position.
if she needs to claim on her insurance, i'm sure the company will want to see her qualifications.
she might as well not bother with insurance if its not valid.
it would make a lot more sense to take a course and get a qualification.

 

[The Guild]

Each insurance company is different, but most will ask for a copy of your certificate when you join, or at least if a claim is made.

 

[JaneRussell]

I used to work for a major nail chain- better not say who as I assume that is not allowed in the Geek Rules!

Anyhow- when i went for my interview & trade test (and for the whole time i worked there) no one ever asked to see my certificate AND they made me do treatments i was not trained in- I did tell them but they didnt care.

It was probably one of the most frustrating jobs ever as we constantly had to rectify work done by 'trainees' in our salon.

The 'trainees' were not in fact on any trainee scheme- they just got paid less & yet were still booked to do clients who assumed they were fully qualified.

Perhaps why there was such a high turnover of staff & clients!

If such a big company behaves in this way it doesn't surprise me that some people don't realise they actually are meant to have some sort of certification etc

At least it sounds like she is good at doing nails & hopefully will take on a bit of training which will in turn be recognised!

Jane

 

[ris]

I used to work for a major nail chain- better not say who as I assume that is not allowed in the Geek Rules!

Anyhow- when i went for my interview & trade test (and for the whole time i worked there) no one ever asked to see my certificate AND they made me do treatments i was not trained in- I did tell them but they didnt care.

It was probably one of the most frustrating jobs ever as we constantly had to rectify work done by 'trainees' in our salon.

The 'trainees' were not in fact on any trainee scheme- they just got paid less & yet were still booked to do clients who assumed they were fully qualified.

Perhaps why there was such a high turnover of staff & clients!

If such a big company behaves in this way it doesn't surprise me that some people don't realise they actually are meant to have some sort of certification etc

At least it sounds like she is good at doing nails & hopefully will take on a bit of training which will in turn be recognised!

Jane

My respect for such an honest post!

I think the chain realize that there will always be the low-end of the market – people who want nails but are not prepared to pay much – so why give the profits away. Besides which is maybe even more important – the scheme you’ve described offers masses of valuable experience and ‘know-how’.
And, in the long run, one can always blame on the 'poorly qualified'.

 

[SparkleJeanie]

I have qualified this year in, VTCT Level 2 manicure/Pedicure, artificial nails & cosmetic make- up. But still do not have any certificates. I managed to get insurance without, however will need to provide proof of qualification in the event of a claim. I am happy with this arrangement as the college sent me notification that my certificate's have been applied for, so will keep the letter until they arrive. I have fortunate to have found each course reasonably easy, but would never dream of carrying out a treatment without full training.
When i did my artificial nail course, there was a girl that had been doing it for years but had decided to get proper training and certification.
This girl really should go down the proper channels, for the sake of her clients, and for her pride in her job.

 

[brittone05]

JEanie - how did you find the VTCT? I am hoping to enrol on the manicure one in September then the extensions in February. Am totally new though to nail application - is it something you would sya is good for a total beginner?

On topic - my daughter has recently done her work experience in a salon and they did her nails for her for free. Thank God she didn't pay for them as they were lifting after 1 day, there was no clear definition between acrylic and her cuticle - in fact it overlapped on most fingers. Her 1st finger on her right hand has now been soaked off as she was crying in pain with it - her actual nail has split right through the nail bed from side to side

I plan on visiting the salon this week to ask for the certificate of the girl who did it!

 

[sheryden]

Hiya everyone

So i went to a salon to get my nails done and i got chatting to the girl about work, i told her i had my own shop and she was asking questions such as it expensive to run etc.. she told me she would love to open one and asked if i displayed my certificates, i told her i did and she pulled a face, i was abit confused so i asked her what was wrong, she then went on to tell me that she didnt have a certificate as she trained herself however she was covered with insurance, is this allowed? i thought you had to have a certificate and the correct training!! .. and incase you's were wondering, my nails actually looked gorgeous and i was really impressed!

x

Being qualified does not make you professional, being professional does not make you qualified, there is NO LAW at the moment to say you have to be qualified, for insurance you need to be qualified if you have insurance and you are not qualified then your insurance is null and void.

With all the n.n.s these will not be insured. Having your certificates up can give clients peace of mind that they are in safe hands so to speak. get ya self qualifed