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Hello, i'm new to this site, but have been reading your posts and notice most of you are creative trained.

Is there anyone out there who is not creative trained but still very happy with the training they received from another source and are now running a successful business because of it?

Can someone tell me why everyone chooses Creative, as i believe it is only a four day course, which i don't think is long enough to turn professional, or maybe i'm wrong, what do others do ? hope i don't sound critical of Creative as i'm just trying to figure out the options and find out if others manage a perfectly good career as Nail Techs after getting training elsewhere.

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I'm not Creative trained! I dod VTCT in man&ped in college then one day Spangles nail art then 4 day l&p foundation course with Star Nails then advanced workshop in fibreglass. I had good trainers and was totally happy with my training. There's always room to do more training, whoever you originally trained with.
 

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I trained with Backscratchers Fibreglass Glass Glaze system, I would eventually like to add another system to run alongside it but not yet.
Which system are you using?
 

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I trained locally to me not with creative. I have done 3 day courses, conversion courses, one day courses. My certificates are all oked by ANT etc I have a good clientelle and am in the thros of opening a salon so its a case of keep educating yourself and I have to say that this site is fantastic for help and advice and tutorials. I am aware that some product companies will only sell their products to people who train with them but I did hear on the radio that a new EU directive is coming into place where this will not be allowed (don't know too much about it as am not clued up on all that so don't hold me to that).
Find a trainer with a good rep and keep on practicing and learning.
 

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highflyer said:
Hello, i'm new to this site, but have been reading your posts and notice most of you are creative trained.

Is there anyone out there who is not creative trained but still very happy with the training they received from another source and are now running a successful business because of it?

Can someone tell me why everyone chooses Creative, as i believe it is only a four day course, which i don't think is long enough to turn professional, or maybe i'm wrong, what do others do ? hope i don't sound critical of Creative as i'm just trying to figure out the options and find out if others manage a perfectly good career as Nail Techs after getting training elsewhere.
YOu are right and you are wrong ;) The Creative courses are approximately one year in length and the 4 day course is just the Foundation; the minimum you need to get you started safely.

One reason why Creative is so popular is that the training is superb and the products along with it. The trainers are of the highest caliber (most are competition winners) and the on-going support and customer care is massive ... CND have not got their reputation for nothing. Check it out.

Naturally there are other sucessful technicains using other products as you would find in any profession. It does make life a little easier however when you can start at the top instead of working your way up. Less initial problems, more help and advise and a well recognised brand.
 

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Hi I'm new to this site to, I did my training with star nails I did the Total tech course in acrylic, manicure & nail art, then a work shop in gel and pedicure, and have just done advanced training in acrylic I've got one day left to do, I'm happy with the training but I would love to do the masters course with CND, I plan to start that next year! I want to learn as much a possible. Doing nails has given me a new lease of life wish I did it years ago lol!! Angie x;)
 

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I use NSI products, its best to have a look aroun
d all the nail companies perhaps at excel Proffesional nails you can meet trainers and look at the products they have do lots of research and look at all the benifits you can get from that company. People have won competitions using NSI.

:lol:
 

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I think we all agree with you that four days is not long enough to learn all there is to learn.........
But the learning never stops any how !!!!!

Any four day course should be taken as a foundation course, like Geeg so rightly said...........
I think it is a bit like say infant schooling through to junior schooling, now don't all shout at me and say "INFANT SCHOOL", well it is nail training in its infancy..............

You learn the basics, learn basic skills to build up on...learn basic chemistry.......then go and play, well go and practice .......
Some people stay at this level as they feel they have learned enough to produce great nails and earn some money............

Others will move on to college level......by now they will have had some time in the real nail word and have found that they are still missing some skills.........They want to add other systems to their skills, learn other advanced Techniques, like producing that fab smile line, using the skills they have learned at basic level in a re balancing class, sculpting class and problem nail class.....then they go away again and prefect those learned skills.................
Some stay at this level, but some move on as by now they have got the "I want to learn more bug"

These are the Technicians that constantly looking to improve their skill level.....
Our Industry is not a stand still one, new products come out and new skills are needed to make the most of the new products.......

All you need to do is find a college or training company that takes you through this learning progress and supports you in this all the way...............
Not one that stops at the four day course and sends you on your merry way, telling you that after the four day course you are a fully professional Nail Technician..............

So why Creative??????
I speak from my expirience here, I did not start off with Creative 13 years ago....I was a 2 system Technician who thought , I knew enough and my earnings where pretty good....Was this enough for me No ....So I ended up 12 years later on their doorstep, learned more then I thought was possible....won at Competitions thanks to Samuels great on line critic and red circles ,thanks to the support from our Geeks here and thanks to great Company product support ...... moved on to Masters level.........have I finished learning..........No way .........There is still the new NVQ3 in Nail Enhancements and I know that Creative will help me to achieve that one too........They want you to be a success as that makes them a success............Enough rambling of my soap box and in the bath xxxxx
JMHO on this xxxxx
 

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Hello hi flyer

I trained with the edge two years ago, I did a two day 'basic course. On the first day the trainer showed us four diffrent methods - fiberglas/silk, dipping, liquid and powder and gel she gave us a little play with the products and asked us which we would like to specialise in - I chose fiberglass . We then practised on each other in the afternoon. We went away for a fortnight and was told to do as many sets as possible and come back with a model.

I went back after having completed about five sets (i think my first set took about five hours or so) my model had what the trainer thought maybe an infection in one nail but was told it may not be so not to worry and that was it i had a certificate and was told I am qualified as nail tech.

I thought I was pretty good and still do but I think my training could have been better!

The reason I think I am fairly good is that
a. I am a perfectionist
b. I practised and practised and then practised some more
c. I went to the trouble of finding out as much as I could about everything nail related
d. I realise that the training was not the end of the story but just the beginning
e. I care about the client

These are some of the things I think make a great nail tech - I think the training is only part of the story I think it is also about what sort of a person you are.

Good luck

Jo xxxx
 

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I'm Creative trained and I know a lot of other techs who trained with various other companies. My view is this: Being Creative trained is a bit like being Toni & Guy trained. It opens more doors for you. For example, I often see ad's saying "Space for rent for Creative trained nail tech". With regards to the training, like most companies, the training is far too short and far too expensive. E Z Flow sound good. OPI are also excellent. Ask around. x
 

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Kimmi Rocks said:
I'm Creative trained and I know a lot of other techs who trained with various other companies. My view is this: Being Creative trained is a bit like being Toni & Guy trained. It opens more doors for you. For example, I often see ad's saying "Space for rent for Creative trained nail tech". With regards to the training, like most companies, the training is far too short and far too expensive. E Z Flow sound good. OPI are also excellent. Ask around. x
Sorry Kimmi, but if you feel that Creative training was far too short and far too expensive then why did you bother - was it just so you could have more doors opened for you and trade on their good reputation or was it for some other reason.

If you actually analyse what you get for your training that are classed as extras on other courses, then you do get value for money and as has also been mentioned, the Foundation course is only that - the foundation.
 

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Kimmi Rocks said:
I'm Creative trained and I know a lot of other techs who trained with various other companies. My view is this: Being Creative trained is a bit like being Toni & Guy trained. It opens more doors for you. For example, I often see ad's saying "Space for rent for Creative trained nail tech". With regards to the training, like most companies, the training is far too short and far too expensive.
I do not accept that comment at all.

First of all had you completed the training with -CND - which you seemingly did not, it would have taken you a year so obviously you did not take your training past the novice level, and I do not accept that a year is too short a training period.

As for expensive ... The CND courses are very value added by including a complete professional kit of products and the Nail Trainer plus world class experienced and talented Educators, and completely in line with other similar courses and in fact less expensive than some.

I think You should check around before you come out with statements like the above, and post them on a site for thousands to read your misinformation. You may have stated your opinion but it is not based on the facts.
 

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I am Creative trained/training ... and proud of it!
I know peeps on here get slammed for praising Creative but we can only each speak on our personal experiences and all my other experiences left me floundering in the dark until I turned to Creative.
You know I didnt even like the 'look' of Creative when I was attending shows.
I would walk past the crowded, heaving stand and though I couldnt even see Sam I could hear him strutting his stuff.
I wrongly and ashamedly frowned at their professional image thinking 'Hmm, US company, all hype and gloss'. :o
No, I wanted someone to train me who cared about their customers not their image so I dismissed them and trained elsewhere!
In fact I went on to train at several places and found I was quickly relieved of my cash then left to fend for myself!
It was while I was considering giving up nails and attending what I thought to be my last show that I headed into a seminar hosted by Sam on sculpting.
I was taken by his wit and genuine informative approach and afterwards I found myself fighting through the crowds on the Creative stand to check out the products.
At this point I was still a little sceptical but more open.
I sent for training info and decided to give my last shot to Creative and I have to say that with them I have found what I was looking for all along and that is to know that as a Creative tech I am getting a solid ongoing education.
Sound advice is and always will be on hand with Creative and Im using products that are second to none.
Creative give their students the start everyone in this business should get, with ongoing great customer care .. not bad for a company thats 'all hype and gloss', lol!
Sorry its a long one :o :o :o
 

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Hi. I did a college course that lasted about 6 months or so, we trained using NSI products (if you can call it trained) lol. It cost quite a lot of money when you take into account the uniform, shoes, course fees etc etc... I qualified over 2 years ago but never really came away feeling that confident as we werent even shown rebalances!! as a result i haven't practised as much as i should and was going to give it up and sell my stuff......then i found this site!! :D

Its given me the determination to carry on and not give up. I have now bought a 2nd hand nail trainer and i really want to succeed. I have been thinking about doing the creative conversion, followed with maybe a real rebalancing course..im sure i wouldnt regret it.... but that would mean that all the NSI stuff i have would be wasted as i wouldnt use it if i had the creative kit i dont think! Im sure that with practice i could do nice nails with NSI after all there are plenty of great NSI techs out there!

HELP - im torn between sticking to what i already know and converting??? any ideas? :rolleyes:
 

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geeg said:
One reason why Creative is so popular is that the training is superb and the products along with it. The trainers are of the highest caliber (most are competition winners) and the on-going support and customer care is massive ... CND have not got their reputation for nothing. Check it out.
ill second that without hesitation - i trained with other companies but when i converted to creative - i learned more in one hour with creative than i learned in a whole day with other companies. i would recommend creative to anyone. and i must also say that i am so proud to be a creative tech. the support you get also when you ring the academy is first class. you ring with a query and they sort it out for you within hours. the other company i trained with still havent answered my queries and that was at least 2 months ago. i think from that - it speaks for itself
 

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Hi Sherrie, I am with you here, I have just trained with NSI and am in the middle of setting up my business and getting a grant for a large quantity of stock. After reading all threads on Creative I am wondering the same as you ... carry on or convert ? I am going to Gmex but not till OCtober and need to make my decision (can not afford to buy whole new stock in the short term) ... I am not unhappy with my NSI ... infact have loved every second of every minute that i do .. its just the main help, Q & A's on this site come from Creative trained and are all so passionate about Creative ... so as you say, what to do? dunno!
Maybe there are some NSI experts on here too to be able to give us some support :)
Jo xx
 

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To Joanne & Sherrie,

If you like your NSI stuff and have lots of it hence making it not financially viable to change at the moment - why not contact NSI and see if there are trainers in your area where you could do a one to one with to help sort out your specific niggles.

If you do not get the support and assistance that you would expect then you will at least have given it your best shot with what you trained with.

Please ask any questions you have and we will assist all we can. Use your NSI stuff to at least get back some of your initial investment then you can look at conversion if this is the way to go for you.

Good luck and ask away.
 

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*Joanne* said:
Hi Sherrie, I am with you here, I have just trained with NSI and am in the middle of setting up my business and getting a grant for a large quantity of stock. After reading all threads on Creative I am wondering the same as you ... carry on or convert ? I am going to Gmex but not till OCtober and need to make my decision (can not afford to buy whole new stock in the short term) ... I am not unhappy with my NSI ... infact have loved every second of every minute that i do .. its just the main help, Q & A's on this site come from Creative trained and are all so passionate about Creative ... so as you say, what to do? dunno!
Maybe there are some NSI experts on here too to be able to give us some support :)
Jo xx
I dont think you need to be Creative trained only to get help and support from this site. There are a lot of people here who have a wealth of experience in all sorts of systems so ask away and i'm sure that people will be able to help you out.
 

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Think you may be right! seem to be spending, spending, spending at the mo and not getting anything back :eek: .

Maybe a couple of hours one 2 one with an NSI trainer would sort me out - just keep reading these posts praising creative products and makes me wonder....:rolleyes:

i am really tempted to buy a fabric# kit tomorrow all the same..... lol
 

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The more I read on here, the more I am swayed to get Creative trained. I have to say I feel rather like someone has said, given the basics then left to get on with it. I am even having trouble getting my certificate, which I was told originally would come in about a week/ two weeks, then at least two weeks, then they didn't get back to me when I left a message, now I'm being told at least four weeks! NOT good customer care, as far as I'm concerned! From what people have said, Creative would not do this to me.
 

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