Acrylic problem

[Andreag]

:!:hi,has any of you had this problem,when i do a set of acrylic nails,and come to the fileing bit at the end i find that the acrylic files off by the cuticle? i know your supposed to keep the cuticle area thin,so what am i doin wrong?:irked: any help would be appriciated,thanksx

 

[~Emmsybabes~]

Hello hunny and welcome to the site :hug:

Have you qualified yet or are you still training
(only ask as this will help people to give you correct advice for the level you are at, at the moment)

If your product is filing off at the cuticle area, it sounds to me like your working a little too wet.

Is the product still soft when you come to file,
Or do you notice a crystal like appearance or anything like that ?

 

[Cathie!]

I'd say maybe too dry......

get practicing your ratio....it's not an exact science liquid to powder in a brush could never be exact!

 

[Andreag]

i qualified 3 mths ago,no crystals,maybe its not dry or i think i do put it on a bit wet,as worry if iput it on too thick it will take ages to file!

 

[xAnnaBannAx]

are you prepping thoroughly? could it be if any residue is left on the nail the acrylic doesnt adhere to the nail plate properly?

 

[Andreag]

sorry if im being a bit thick! but didnt unerstand your answer!dugh!!!

 

[xAnnaBannAx]

sorry if im being a bit thick! but didnt unerstand your answer!dugh!!!

It crossed my mind that it could be down to prep...if there is any pterygium/oil/dust etc left on the nail plate then maybe it could prevent your l & p thoroughly adhering to the nail plate.

 

[louiser]

Also what product are you using? As you use smaller beads and a different part of your brush it can be hard to press that area down properly xx

 

[Angelaznailz]

Maybe it's a file problem and that your grit is too low.
Try using a koala buffer (or similar) in that area. The more practice you get, the more you won't need to file much afterwards.

 

[Bhiffy]

Is it like crumbling around zone 3? i had this problem for a while and it was my application, i was working too wet and not using the proper application technique. Try to get a copy of nailclass by Gigi, absolutely invaluable and helps loads with application problems

 

[sian1979]

i had this problem yesterday....but only with 3 nails. i have never had lifting on this particular client and was totally baffled by it....she came back in today and i re did them...ie as an infill.....i went through my process again and i think what has happened is i did not press my bead down firmly enough with my brush at the right angle... so the bead only bonded at the centre/ bottom if that makes sense (the top of the bead didnt connect) so the result was that when it came to filing the lifted product just filed away. May be i was working too dry...i have been having problems with my mix ratio being too wet so have been trying to deal with that so may have gone too far the other way.
I dont know if this will help you or not but i hope it does.
xx

 

[ValencianNails]

It crossed my mind that it could be down to prep...if there is any pterygium/oil/dust etc left on the nail plate then maybe it could prevent your l & p thoroughly adhering to the nail plate.

I just want to clarify that you don't remove pterygium from the nail plate during prep, you remove cuticle (which is not eponychium).

Here's part of a post Gigi made previously and comes from her book Nailclass:

Preparation is one part of the nail service that cannot and must not be rushed. Thorough PREP will take the most time of any part of the whole service; application and finishing will take much less time proportionally. Preparation is all about removing cuticle from the nail plate.

There is much confusion as to just what cuticle is. It is referred to as: True cuticle, non-living tissue, pterygium, and probably many more things, all misleading. Some think the eponychium is the cuticle. Let’s define.

Cuticle is made up of exfoliated skin cells from the folds of skin surrounding the nail unit. Cuticle is non-living. Cuticle is NOT pterygium (which is an over growth of skin cells). Cuticle is not the eponychium (which is living skin surrounding the base of the nail unit). Cuticle is not ‘true cuticle’ as opposed to false cuticle, it IS cuticle.

If the cuticle is not regularly removed or rubbed off in some way, then it will build up and stick together until it almost looks like a membrane which is growing from under the eponychium … but it is not growing and it is not living, it is just building up until such time as it is removed.

 

[missie]

:idea:Hi. I've only just seen this post. I am sure I read somewhere that acrylic will not stick to new nailplate-it is too soft and needs a few days to harden up. Maybe if the eponychium has been pushed back, exposing new nailplate, this could be the cause? :idea:

 

[grafxgal]

:idea:Hi. I've only just seen this post. I am sure I read somewhere that acrylic will not stick to new nailplate-it is too soft and needs a few days to harden up. Maybe if the eponychium has been pushed back, exposing new nailplate, this could be the cause? :idea:

I have never heard of this, but if this was the case then I would be having major lifting problems with mine (which I don't) as I always push back the eponychium and get my zone 3 bead as close as possible to it when applying.

 

[missie]

Sorry- just an idea x

 

[grafxgal]

No need to apologise. Can you remember where you read it? As it's not something I have heard of before, I am interested to find out more, from anyone.

 

[geeg]

:idea:Hi. I've only just seen this post. I am sure I read somewhere that acrylic will not stick to new nailplate-it is too soft and needs a few days to harden up. Maybe if the eponychium has been pushed back, exposing new nailplate, this could be the cause? :idea:

I don't know where you read what you have posted, but where ever it was, the information is incorrect. Thanks for posting about it though because others may have read the same thing too.

However, the facts are that I and countless thousands of others have been applying acrylic to 'new' nail plate for allot of years now and it sticks just perfectly. :green:

This is one of those 'myths' that in fact I have never heard before! And that is something that doesn't happen often! :lol: Makes you wonder where these things come from.

Nail plate is nail plate and made up of the same ingredients whether it is immature or not. As it is a chemical bond between product and plate, the age of the nail makes no difference.

 

[missie]

Hi. It was Tammy Taylor nails website. It was in the FAQ section, I think, under lifting. I have searched salon geek for various things, and have come across links to her website quite a lot. I got the impression she was quite highly thought of. Have tried to post the page but can't seem to manage it

 

[chickimell]

logically it has to be either your application or your prep id take a minute and re assess your prep so your can eliminate that as a cause

then focus on your application have you considered that the problem may just be your bead is too thin and your buffing it off ?

 

[geeg]

Hi. It was Tammy Taylor nails website. It was in the FAQ section, I think, under lifting. I have searched salon geek for various things, and have come across links to her website quite a lot. I got the impression she was quite highly thought of. Have tried to post the page but can't seem to manage it

In any case the information is incorrect.

As the TT system requires quite an aggressive method of PREP with a coarse file, it may be that this information was given to minimise the damage that using a coarse file would cause in the area you mention??

Best to use a company whose products do not require the coarse filing of the natural nail and who offer a modern education programme with up-to-date top-of-the line information.