How many of you are nurses?

[jenny mosley]

Hi Geerks

How many of you are nurses?

I would really like to take my beauty treatments to the max, nursing degree or diploma is required for many advanced and invasive treatments.

Come on spill the beans

Jenx

 

[VillageNails]

yep - hands up from me.
specialised in cancer care - macmillan nurse for 10 years - escaped from the clutches of the nhs nearly 2 years and found the salon geek soon after.............:green:
i'm just trying to work out from your post what you want to/planning to do?

 

[pazzy]

I also wanted to do a nursing qualification so that I could carry out treatments that require a nursing qual.

 

[e-beauty]

How long is a nurseing course? i would love to do Botox and fillers

 

[VillageNails]

hey girls - to become a registered nurse is at least a 3 year diploma course (4 years for a degree course) - surely not cost effective just to be able to do the extras?? and a waste of nhs etc resources to get a qualification and clear off to the salon

 

[loubylou]

MRN many moons ago
did you have to remind me, i hated every bit of it :irked:
I agree with village nails, its not worth it, don't waste your time unless you are willing to give everything in life up for the next 3 or 4 yrs hth

 

[Mrs.Clooney]

I wouldn't join the NHS if you paid me ten times the salary! I haven't nursed for over 10 years and have never regretted my desicion to not return to nursing.

However, I have found my diploma extremely useful now that I am studying beauty therapy. I find subjects involving anatomy and physiology easy to grasp. I am not considering invasive treatments (well not yet anyway) for my new business, but can appreciate that some training at a medical level can only be beneficial.

 

[pazzy]

So is there anyway round the nursing?

Tbh I think its ridiculous if you have training under your belt like Jenny has - you should be able to undergo further medical based treatments. Even as part of an ongoing course.

It is unfair that a beauty therapist is unable to train in certain treatment when your able to do electrolysis and permanent make-up. Just my opinion.

I also know that there will be some therapists who wouldnt be able to carry out treatments but I think if you can prove a certain level or meet criteria and have serious intense training in that area - there shouldnt be any reason why a skin professional would be as able as a nurse.

If electrolysis came out now - would a beauty therapist be allowed to do this treatment - would our training be adequate?

 

[Mrs.Clooney]

So is there anyway round the nursing?

Tbh I think its ridiculous if you have training under your belt like Jenny has - you should be able to undergo further medical based treatments. Even as part of an ongoing course.

It is unfair that a beauty therapist is unable to train in certain treatment when your able to do electrolysis and permanent make-up. Just my opinion.

I also know that there will be some therapists who wouldnt be able to carry out treatments but I think if you can prove a certain level or meet criteria and have serious intense training in that area - there shouldnt be any reason why a skin professional would be as able as a nurse.

If electrolysis came out now - would a beauty therapist be allowed to do this treatment - would our training be adequate?

When I saw my dental hygienist a couple of months ago, she asked me if I was being taught 'teeth whitening' in my beauty therapy diploma course. The answer? No.

My hygienist was relieved to hear this, because even as a dental hygienist, she is not allowed to whiten teeth, so therefore, why should a beauty therapist? I know nothing about teeth except the ones in my mouth.

Now I am not familiar with electrolysis, but advanced and invasive treatments are just that! They are advanced and invasive. Who is qualified to whiten teeth? I suppose guidelines for qualifications and certification for treatments have to draw a line somewhere. But I know for certain, that one should not take up a nursing diploma or degree just to qualify to perform botox for example. Nursing IMO is a vocation and requires a dedication and commitment.

I am not capable as a nurse of performing surgery which requires a higher degree and further years of intensive training. Just as a beauty therapist cannot perform invasive nursing tasks.

 

[jenny mosley]

Hiya

I've come back with info, I have done my research on nursing course's.

This is the basic's of what i found, please correct if i'm wrong

Ubdegraduate Prospectus DIP HE Nursing (RN)

Entry Requirements:

A wide range quals acceptable for entry to this type of course. For E.G
5 GCSE's grade C or aboue
inc Eng & Maths

Edexal BTEC national or Higher (diplomer or cert)

NVQ level 3

QAA approved level 3 access course

CACHE diploma in nursery nursing

P.S// if i am not mistaken, fees for this course are covered by NHS, also a bursery of approx £6,000+ per annum.

Access course for nursing full time 1 year/ 2 years part time and evenings courses available.
3 years University full time study and practical

Jen x

 

[pazzy]

I completely agree - dentistry / teeth whitening is defnitely a different ball game. The only training in beauty that came close to the mouth was learning the bones of the mandible and the muscles of the mouth.

Why a beauty therapist should be allowed (or even want to) to insert something into someones mouth is beyond me...never even considered it.

But wanting to carry out botox or fillers - with already substantial training in electrical treatments, electrolysis, permanent make-up, skin jetting - is not ludicrous - especially when its in our domain.

I agree they have to draw the line somewhere - and its public safety thats paramount. But some of us -could/would carry out a better service than those who are medically trained.

Before the care standards were introduced for laser and IPL - it was doctors who enforced this - as they wanted the monopoly on doctors/nurses carrying out the treatments. (I could see why on health and safety grounds - but think it was more down to the money - but isnt it always).

Ah never mind.
xx

 

[shellpink]

I was a dental nurse previoulsy & I would like to do teeth whitening! but it's definately more serious than a manicure! not sure I would though!

 

[Jen Smith]

ENMS (Enrolled Nurse for the Mentally Subnormal) or it was when I trained 20 years ago... had to leave due to my marriage separation as I couldn't work the shifts with as young child.

As it turned out.. it was a Godsend as I knew in my heart of hearts it wasn't my passion. I wish I had done General nursing, but opted for the specialist field as I could start the training a year earlier than General... oh humm..

Someone suggested to me last night actually that I should start offering Botox... but I am so not interested in this. I do offer electrolysis.

I have never been so happy in my work as I am currently.. loving every day in my salon and all the training which I am addicted to.

:lol:

 

[jenny mosley]

Hi Jen,

You are a very talented lady, all done by your own hard work and determination. Go with what you are are happy with, if you love your that much then it has to be a perfect match.

Well Done You:hug:

Jen

 

[Jen Smith]

Hi Jen,

You are a very talented lady, all done by your own hard work and determination. Go with what you are are happy with, if you love your that much then it has to be a perfect match.

Well Done You:hug:





Jen

Thanks Jen :hug:

 

[beautyseeker]

My HND qualifies me in first year nursing but I dont think I would go on to do the other three or four years (dont like vomit, poo, needles, and anything else yucky).

:hug:

 

[jenny mosley]

I have to aagree with Pazzy,


that some of us invasive beauty therapist and many beauty therapist will and could offfer a better service than some of these medical pro's. Sadly i have already seen these mistakes by medical pro's.

I contacted a facial peel company the other day, asking why i was not allowed to train on these products when i already do laser and invasive treatments and i even have the backing of my insurance provider on these advanced and invasive treatments.?????

Things may change for the better

Jen x

 

[MrsR]

Just wondering as I am an aux nurse and starting out my training in nails, but obviously as aux's and nurses we aren't supposed to have long nails and especially not painted so how do you get away with fab nails while working?

 

[Nicki-Marie]

I think it all depends on the ward sister and possibly the length of time certain nurses have worked. Although I understand a nurses nails should really be short and clean for health and hygiene reasons. My mum is a staff nurse and has almost 30 years of nursing experience behind her. I do her nails for her, she has short gel enhancements. x

 

[pazzy]

Jenny - when you think about Debra Robson Lawrence - how well respected in the industry she is - you would expect her to carry out botox etc or be able to. Its mad. She is so specialist at what she does - (obviously I dont know her personally but shes always featured in aesthetic magazines).

I would consider her higher than a doctor in skills and experience.


Maybe like electrolysis (where you have to have done 5 years industry ) to go onto the advanced training - maybe there could be a criteria to meet before you can go on to more invasive treatments - someday. How to enforce this would be the major factor.