Male Clients

[Carole.B]

HI EVERYONE, BEEN READING THREADS FOR AGES, SO MUCH INFO FOR A NEWBIE LIKE ME. JUST WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT MALE CLIENTS. I FINISH MY CITY AND GUILDS IN A FEW WEEKS, ALSO DOING EN COURSES A LONG SIDE AND I AM GOING MOBILE. ANYWAY I HAD TO DO A MALE CLIENT, 1st WEEK MAN 2nd WEEK PED USING THE JESSICA SYSTEM WHICH DO A GOOD MALE RANGE FOR MAN'S. WONDERING WHETHER TO OFFER MALE MANICURE'S ON MY PRICE LIST, WHAT I GETTING AT TO ALL YOU MOBILE NAIL TECH'S DO YOU THINK IT'S SAFE TO GO OUT TO MALE CLIENT'S OR JUST STICK TO THE LADIES

 

[Bagpuss]

Hiya ... Safety must always be first, however saying that i refuse to spend my life assuming every male is a threat to me...same as i refuse to believe that every car journey i make will result in a crash.

I would take the same steps of safety going for treatments whether it be male or female....take my mobile...tell someone where I'm going.

 

[nailzoo]

Make your own decision ....... and make it now, before you start answering the phone.

Then simply say. "sorry, I don't do men". There are enough threads about the insecurities about doing men on any level, with any service, it's really up to you, if you don't feel safe, don't do it.

Heaven forbid, you be influenced by someone else and something happen.

As a man it gets quite tiring reading these threads over and over, it's starting to make me look at women in a different light, everytime I see a woman now, rather than seeing an innocent smile, I'm frightened that the smile is a mere facade hiding her "fear" that she sees me as a potential rapist and her as the target.

Enough is enough!!!! as Donna and Barbra would say.

 

[geeg]

Make your own decision ....... and make it now, before you start answering the phone.

Then simply say. "sorry, I don't do men". There are enough threads about the insecurities about doing men on any level, with any service, it's really up to you, if you don't feel safe, don't do it.

Heaven forbid, you be influenced by someone else and something happen.

As a man it gets quite tiring reading these threads over and over, it's starting to make me look at women in a different light, everytime I see a woman now, rather than seeing an innocent smile, I'm frightened that the smile is a mere facade hiding her "fear" that she sees me as a potential rapist and her as the target.

Enough is enough!!!! as Donna and Barbra would say.

No, Carl, you have to understand that any woman on her own is at a disadvantage if a male person wanted to take advantage.

There have been enough actual disappearances of women and murders .. women who were estate agents and went to show a potential male buyer around a house etc etc.

A woman (in fact any person working alone) must take precautions to protect thmself in case some predator was using the job as an excuse to take advantage.

I think the rule for all should be not to place yourself in a potentially dangerous situation.

* Always let someone know where you are going and when you expect to return. ALWAYS.

 

[nailzoo]

No, Carl, you have to understand that any woman on her own is at a disadvantage if a male person wanted to take advantage.

There have been enough actual disappearances of women and murders .. women who were estate agents and went to show a potential male buyer around a house etc etc.

A woman (in fact any person working alone) must take precautions to protect thmself in case some predator was using the job as an excuse to take advantage.

I think the rule for all should be not to place yourself in a potentially dangerous situation.

* Always let someone know where you are going and when you expect to return. ALWAYS.

So make the decision and just don't do it/them, no discussion needed,
make your decision DON'T DO THEM AT ALL
don't be enticed or coerced DON'T DO THEM .... end of.

 

[geeg]

So make the decision and just don't do it/them, no discussion needed,
make your decision DON'T DO THEM AT ALL
don't be enticed or coerced DON'T DO THEM .... end of.

Well yes I agree really.

I think the world is more like a jungle than ever before and no one with any brains walks into the lions den .. not if they want to stay alive anyway. I know I would NOT do it at all. I can't imagine anything worse than working mobile.

 

[Carole.B]

First let me say i am sorry for using capitals.

I thing the best solution would be to rent a nail desk in a salon and do some good advertising. Thanks for your reply's.

 

[talented talons]

I am mobile myself and don't ever go to do a man's nails on my own. I either get them to come to me, which is when my hubby will be home and downstairs, or i don't do them.

The only other time i do men's nails, is if it is the hubby of one of my regulars and she will be there herself. Other than that, i just wouldn't put myself in any situation that i wouldn't be able to handle.

I rarely do evenings when it will be dark because of this problem of a new client, not knowing who they are etc, be it male or female. If i don't like where they live, then i don't do them. I will then pass them onto someone else closer to them.

I rarely have to do this though.

 

[Susie H]

What a sad world we live in, if I had a penny for every time someone has said,
You're brave a woman, driving a bus or taxi at this time of night. Normally I get this from men and I always want to ask them why they think that every other man except them is the mad rapist.
Talented Talons has given a good answer and your own is also a good one hun, if you are able to rent a table somewhere then thats a good place to have your male clients come to, as said safety first but what a shame to have to turn away a sector of the market place because one in a million might be the mad rapist.
And Carl, you are not alone, my husband has also found him self second guessing the women he has worked with in case anything he has said or done could be misconstrued.
Sad sad world.

 

[talented talons]

What a sad world we live in, if I had a penny for every time someone has said,
You're brave a woman, driving a bus or taxi at this time of night. Normally I get this from men and I always want to ask them why they think that every other man except them is the mad rapist.
Talented Talons has given a good answer and your own is also a good one hun, if you are able to rent a table somewhere then thats a good place to have your male clients come to, as said safety first but what a shame to have to turn away a sector of the market place because one in a million might be the mad rapist.
And Carl, you are not alone, my husband has also found him self second guessing the women he has worked with in case anything he has said or done could be misconstrued.
Sad sad world.

I totally agree with you Susie, i wish we could go back to a time where you trusted people and gave everyone a chance, instead of having to treat everyone as a potential threat. I do feel sorry for men as well as they have to be careful how they act or what they say in case they upset someone or make them feel threatened.

The mens nails i have treated are usually very pleased i have chosen to do them, but also appreciate the reason i have to be so careful.

 

[Carole.B]

Thankyou talented talons i will heed your advice. x

 

[pazzy]

I am safety conscious but on the other side of the coin - my hubby used to work in my salon (sunbeds) and some women fancied him and some thought he should NOT be in the salon - giving him filthy looks and sometimes not even speaking to him - which I thought was unfair.

However - I made the decision NOT to treat men UNLESS its just for a manicure or brow wax and I know them (clients hubbies). And no mens pedicures (I won't even do my hubbies feet so I'm not doing some other blokes).

I have to say though - in a safe environment (salon) male clients are pretty cool and don't give you any jip.

 

[geeg]

I am safety conscious but on the other side of the coin - my hubby used to work in my salon (sunbeds) and some women fancied him and some thought he should NOT be in the salon - giving him filthy looks and sometimes not even speaking to him - which I thought was unfair.

However - I made the decision NOT to treat men UNLESS its just for a manicure or brow wax and I know them (clients hubbies). And no mens pedicures (I won't even do my hubbies feet so I'm not doing some other blokes).

I have to say though - in a safe environment (salon) male clients are pretty cool and don't give you any jip.

My experience with men in my salons was that as soon as one entered the salon ... CONVERSATION came to a stand still!

We used to have 1 evening per week where we catered to the men. Made a feature of it.

 

[Susie H]

We used to have 1 evening per week where we catered to the men. Made a feature of it.

Very good idea, and it solves so many problems, you don't have to say anything on the phone about safety, you can just choose on day/evening when someone else can be with you and say in your leaflets or on your web site that this is your gentlemans night

 

[pazzy]

A men only evening would be a great idea.

I am not keen on mixed gyms either - I don't want any bloke to see me wobbling away on a treadmill!! Front and back - LOL

 

[blossom]

I don't do men. I didn't do them when I was mobile and I don't do them now I work from home because I feel vulnerable.

It's a shame really. Everybody knows that the VAST majority of men are absolutely fine and would probably make delightful clients.

For me, it's not a risk I'm prepared to take.

Carl, it must be frustrating to read posts like this but you have to accept that as women we ARE vulnerable, and even more so in a one-to-one situation in an empty house, surely you must see that. If every rapist/attacker had it tattooed on their forehead then we'd be alright, wouldn't we . . . . unfortunately the dodgy ones look the same as the nice ones and why should we be blamed for not wanting to take a chance?

 

[aliceellen1974]

I do client's husband's manicures and pedicures and I think that is the only situation I would feel comfortable - i would never go to a man's house on my own xx

 

[Heavely Touch]

You also have to remember, it's not just men that can be dangerous!! Some women can be just as much of a threat.

You MUST take the same safety precautions, regardless of the clients sex.

 

[Tracey Park]

When I was first in the business and was mobile I never advertised I did men !!!! (scuse the pun) I took referalls via word of mouth and that worked for me. I did this mainly for the safety and security position.

Now I have my own salon, I advertise freely on the internet that I specialize in male treaments. This works for me as there is always someone else around. However as someone else has quite rightly stated its not just men you have to worry about !!!!

Hope that helps you out a little. It is a tough one but go with what your gut is telling you and you wont go wrong !!!

 

[CurlyQs]

My first massage was with a man and it was a bad experience. He said some things that made me very uncomfortable and I should have just left. But being the 'polite' person I am I stayed.

I got in the habit of requesting a female where ever I booked. One time I ended up with a male (at a different place) by accident. I think I looked surprised when I saw him. He explained to me what a tough business it is when women request females. He said a lot of men request females also. It was interesting to hear his perspective. He gave a great massage and totally opened my eyes about that.

BUT, being a woman is an experience only a woman can know. Fact is, we have a history of being subjugated and victimized, so we walk this earth with a different mind set. I'm not paranoid, but I am very careful not to put myself in a position I may regret. I wish it wasn't that way and I feel badly that great men have to suffer for it.

To answer the question, I would never go to an unknown male's house for a treatment.