I've recently starting using all the CND products to prep nails before applying L&P enhancements. Before I used to basically file, buff off the shine and apply the tips. When I do a proper prep the nails just do not last!!! I have lost custom over them not even lasting a week anymore. Please help me xx
Nail prep isn't working for me!!
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So basically you used to dry prep....? there is nothing stopping you going back to doing a dry prep if it works for you. 90% of the time i do a dry prep.
When using any cuticle remover it really important to remove it afterwards using a soapy water mix....scrubfresh alone wont remove it. if its not removed fully it could lead to lifting.
When using any cuticle remover it really important to remove it afterwards using a soapy water mix....scrubfresh alone wont remove it. if its not removed fully it could lead to lifting.
I always dry prep as well, it just works for me! 
squidgie
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Hmmmm sorry to hijack thread but i am wondering if this is the reason i am still getting lifting too? I have been applying cuticle remover and taking it off (or so i thought) with Scrubfresh. Would a dry prep mean using a cuticle pusher only to prep nail?
ScrubFresh doesn't remove CuticleAway, you need water with a light detergent in it. You really shouldn't get less lifting with a dry prep unless you are leaving CuticleAway behind.
HTHs
HTHs
aep155
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OMG!! This might be the cause of all my problems .... so simple. I have been soaking off and reapplying every week (say nothing of the problems that has caused to my skin!) So glad I don't do other people lol.
Can't wait to see if this works - dry prep or wash after cuticle remover!!
Can't wait to see if this works - dry prep or wash after cuticle remover!!
i have always used creative and i always use citrus soak or one of the cnd handwash's with water to remove the excess but make sure u give them a good scrub get right under the lateral folds to make sure all traces are removed. That was my biggest problem when i first started lol ive learnt now x
Yeah I always ask them to wash their hands or have pre mixed citrus soak in a twist pump, just pump on to your nail pads and give everything a good old fashioned wash. This is something CND taught me on the foundation course. But am a bit confused... This 'dry prep' thing is it just a light buff or something? surely if your not removing the dead skin that has grown up with the nail regrowth, that could cause lifting more? Do you just file product down, buff, scrubfresh and re-apply product?
angel fingers
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you still use your cuticle tooll in the same way but without the addition of a cuticle remover lotion.
mum
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I think until a technician truly understands what prep needs to achieve, in detail, there could always be potential problems.
Brands like CND (or any other good quality brand) will provide a procedure that should minimise problems. But, clients individual nails are always involved together with following that procedure to the letter. Plus understanding the specific products and their effect is essential.
This is a comment not a criticism but would solve a lot of problems if taken seriously.
Brands like CND (or any other good quality brand) will provide a procedure that should minimise problems. But, clients individual nails are always involved together with following that procedure to the letter. Plus understanding the specific products and their effect is essential.
This is a comment not a criticism but would solve a lot of problems if taken seriously.
RedAdmiral
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I agree Tech's really need to understand why they perform prep, what they need to achieve and what the products do. It is the most skipped, rushed and undervalued part of service when really it is such a vital part.
LadyFinger7
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I was always taught to do a dry prep on enhancement clients, only using a cuticle remover with mani/pedi clients. I remember in school, we actually spent more time than anything learning prep. I remember being told to pay specific attention to this step because without it, it doesn't matter how nice of a nail you create, it will probubly lift. When I first started, I was trying to cut down time anywhere because I was so slow at everything. But it is well worth your time to make sure your prep is perfect because you might save time at first, but when they come for a fill you will have totally lost all the time you made up because your filing out lifting or possibly taking off nails.
aep155
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This is why I was getting so frustrated I have done CND L&P Foundation but don't remember using anything other than scrubfresh after cuticles... maybe its my memory i'm not sure but at the time I know I would have bought what I needed (and more lol) and I did re-read my folders recently and again don't remember seeing the hand washing at that point of prep .... very odd!
Interesting ........
Most that use Creative "know" how to use it and the steps to achieve "perfect" results.
So ...... if you follow manufacturers advice, there should be no problems.
Why do so many take it upon themselves to invent their own procedures, ignore manufacturers advice, then complain about issues.
My reply may be taken as being abrupt by some, (sorry) but it's a fact.
JUST FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS, then it's a fact of blame the tech, not the product.
Most that use Creative "know" how to use it and the steps to achieve "perfect" results.
So ...... if you follow manufacturers advice, there should be no problems.
Why do so many take it upon themselves to invent their own procedures, ignore manufacturers advice, then complain about issues.
My reply may be taken as being abrupt by some, (sorry) but it's a fact.
JUST FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS, then it's a fact of blame the tech, not the product.
Klassy Klaws
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I always do a wet prep before applying a new set of enhancements but when doing a rebalance I do a dry prep which works perfect for me.
I also keep a bottle with either citrus soak or a scentsation in water and use a face cloth to remove the cuticle away.
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I also keep a bottle with either citrus soak or a scentsation in water and use a face cloth to remove the cuticle away.
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Maybe you did the course before CuticleAway? However even before that we taught to use CuticleEraser and/or SolarOil.
I do agree with you....But!
Things change, new products are launched, procedures get updated, and with more choice even within 1 system different techs can do the same thing a different way, with everyone thinking that their way is the 'right' way and anyone doing anything different is wrong!!
Situations like this crop up here on SG on a regular basis, people end up arguing about absolutely nothing!
When I used CND I used Cuticle Eraser in my prep to loosen the cuticle before I removed it with my metal tool, then I used Scrubfresh. Simplez!
Later CND brought out Cuticle Remover, but at that point it was still cuticle eraser in the student kits so I still taught students to use that, although informing them of the new cuticle remover product and sometimes demoing it. Leaving the choice up to them as to what they would go on and use.
Now I think the Cuticle Remover is in the student kit ... and both of these products have different names now!!
So can you see how even within 1 brand/system confusion can be caused on here because everyone is SO definite that the way they were shown was THE only way to do it!
YES Nailzoo you are right people should follow directions and check the instructions before use....but maybe some technicians are just like men with flat pack furniture, and we all know they never need instructions!!!
