Tips with stop point for smiles???

[*sarah*]

Hi guys, Had a client who said at a salon in my town had tips put on that had a raised part (where you would sculpt a smile line or where a white tips smile line would be), and they just needed to put the white powder up to it, then pink in other zones and any raised bit left just got buffed down so basically tips that do the smilw line for you??? lol just wondered if anyone had heard of this before, firstly thought is it not just cheating? but tbh I thought white tips were till a year n a bit a go lol xx

 

[Annebet]

Hiya I forget what they are called I think they are from Nsi.

 

[sarahpoppy24]

I think they are called french fin tips from nsi. Google NSI nails they should be on the websight x

 

[Annebet]

Hi yes thats it french fins i didnt get on with them at all

 

[yellow]

yes french fin by nsi however they are phasing them out now although you can get them on e bay

 

[NSINAILS]

Yes, we are phasing them out, but we still have some available. Contact NSI UK to see what they may have: www.nsinails.co.uk

 

[An*Gel]

We used these now and again when we were training... they're good to get you used to applying the L&P and then when you've mastered it there's really no need for them IMO

You're right though.. white tips are cheating and french fins are cheating one step further LOL

 

[uniq12u]

Maybe it's just me, but why is it that we nail techs regard it as cheating to do something that makes our job easier and faster so we can make more money? Does any other business regard it that way?

 

[An*Gel]

Maybe it's just me, but why is it that we nail techs regard it as cheating to do something that makes our job easier and faster so we can make more money? Does any other business regard it that way?

That's a good point

I prefer to do things the hard way for some reason

 

[dellaznailz]

Wow I forgot about these! I have a box somewhere, I used them years ago when first training as I thought they would help me with smile lines :green:

Nope lol. They reminded me a bit of bicycle stabilisers; when you use them you never learn to do the real thing :green:

However, they might be ok for doing the 'other hand' when doing your own. I'll dig them out and have a go with poppits!

 

[amyloutay]

Maybe it's just me, but why is it that we nail techs regard it as cheating to do something that makes our job easier and faster so we can make more money? Does any other business regard it that way?

totally unrelated to nails but my day job is in an independant jewellers and we always feel this way. we like to use our skills to make something better quality for the customer, even though if we did what our competetors do we would save alot of time and money. but in the end we know we have provided the best service possible and that the customer has got the best quality they could for their money.

i am not yet qualified so this is probbly a naive opinion but these tips sound odd, why not just use white tips? its creating more work for the same, unnnatural look, i expect both methods look the same but tips would be easier to do?

 

[MissOwen]

totally unrelated to nails but my day job is in an independant jewellers and we always feel this way. we like to use our skills to make something better quality for the customer, even though if we did what our competetors do we would save alot of time and money. but in the end we know we have provided the best service possible and that the customer has got the best quality they could for their money.

i am not yet qualified so this is probbly a naive opinion but these tips sound odd, why not just use white tips? its creating more work for the same, unnnatural look, i expect both methods look the same but tips would be easier to do?

White tips dont make for a very easy rebalance.

I dont think using white tips is cheating but i also dont think its easier. I'm still training too but i think to be a good nail tech you need to be able to provide every service possible.

I also personally think scupting the white makes it easier to shape the smile line to suit your client. Just my untrained opinion though :hug:

 

[Doorie]

Maybe it's just me, but why is it that we nail techs regard it as cheating to do something that makes our job easier and faster so we can make more money? Does any other business regard it that way?

I was wondering the same...

woa cheating... like... will they go to jail?

I mean it's also hard to learn to use these "helping" tools...
is a c-curve stick a cheat as well? since it helps you creating a perfect c-curve?
isn't gel cheating after all, since you have the time you want to sculpt before it cures?

 

[NoLimitNails]

I don't care if people use this or not, in my book that doesn't count as cheating other than yourself, reason is what I write below:

I cannot se that butting up to a ledge would help training smilelines, and since you would still have to move the smile line at the rebalance, either you would have to remove all and put a new tip on or hand make them.

This way you may be doing smile with a white powder, but you can do faster with white tips, and have pretty much the same look.

If you want to practice smilelines and need a guide, then use thin well-less tips, with fairly deep smiles, like performance from CND, and use that as a guide, and if you want to be fast overlay with a clear or pink, or even faster a PopIt.

I think that the problem is that everything out there (that I have seen) that's designed to help smilelines (or even keep you from doing them) is all creating a kind of uniform look. I know different white tips with different deep smiles, but I find it hard to customdesign the smile, like I do with my white, and even custom blend the white.
I do make nails with white tips, cheaper, but honestly only teenagers or people one off is having them, all of the others want the hand made ones, and I'm not even near good yet.

So I cannot see how it would work for me, as everybody can get a hold of white tips, and everybody can but white up to a ledge (talking about techs here) but not every one can se, and do, the shape of the smile that suits the clients individually. And thats how I make money, and make myself stand out in the crowd of techs...

Just my thoughts:hug: