UV lamp help!..Heat spike

[AlanaB]

Hi every one, Some of my clients are complaining of a burning sensation when i cure their gel nails under the UV lamp. Some feel it more than others & some dont feel it at all. It seems to be happening more & more. Do you think it could be the lamp? Or the gel? Or any other ideas? Any one have the same problem?

 

[adelekeegan1]

I see from your profile that you use Creative so I assume you are using Brisa Gel and a Brisa lamp.

Are you applying your gel layers too thickly ? Have you changed anything you have been doing before ?

 

[AlanaB]

I see from your profile that you use Creative so I assume you are using Brisa Gel and a Brisa lamp.

Are you applying your gel layers too thickly ? Have you changed anything you have been doing before ?

Thanks for your reply, Yeh im using Brisa gel & a creative lamp. Iv been using the same products & lamp for over a year & i havent changed my aplication any. Iv tried doing clients nails thinner & thicker to see if it makes a difference but there is no change. Do you think maybe the bulbs need changed on the lamp? Also remember the gel was actually called creative then it changed to be called brisa? Do you think any thing changed in the gel? Seems the same to me though.

 

[adelekeegan1]

Brisa is the name for Creative gel. If you have been using your bulbs for a year they will almost certainly need changing - HTH

 

[AlanaB]

Yeh i just wondered if any thing had changed when they changed the packaging if that makes sense. Thanks for your help, im going to go look for new bulbs now!

 

[angel fingers]

dont the brisa lamps have a guide to when the bulbs need refreshing, an indicator of some kind ?

it depends how much use it gets as to whether they will need changing.

 

[HeatherDavis]

I bet your clients nails are a little overfiled- When I encounter clients with any kind of damage, it ALWAYS burns them, unless I do EXTREMELY thin application on every layer. When my bulbs are at about done, they don't do ANYTHING, so i very much doubt that thats the culprit. Good luck! Hope you get it sorted out!

 

[deanosnana]

Brisa is the name for Creative gel. If you have been using your bulbs for a year they will almost certainly need changing - HTH

Another tip I learned in my Brisa class it to place the hand SLOWLY into the lamp. I hope this tip helps you!

 

[bellabeautie]

I had a client in college last night, and her nails hurt SO badly when she put them under the lamp she had to take them out. I told her to tap her nails or press them hard, but it didnt make any difference. My tutor came over and said they can get the burning feeling if their nails are damaged or also if they are naturally thin. My clients were neither of these!! I think I may have put the gel on too thickly, so will make sure its much thinner next time xx

 

[Bev Rose]

This only happens to my clients when they have broken a nail by force of some kind and damaged their nail plate in some way. They feel the heat spike for the 1st 5 - 10 secs or so. As someone else has said - if the nails have been damaged - check your filing/buff off techniques are not too heavy handed. If they feel the heat spike - tell them to press the affected finger end down on the table.
I have learn't to apply the gel in thinner layers, curing each layer - even placing the nails just outside the lamp for a few seconds then slowly placing them directly in the lamp which helps for clients who have abused their enhancements!!!:lol:

 

[Violet Star]

I was told when your client feels heat spikes get them to quickly remove their hand from the lamp and quickly put them back in again

xx

 

[eyecandy]

Hi
The heat spike occurs if your gel layers are too thickly applied or if the client has damaged or thin nails.
Its caused as the gel goes under the UV light to cure. Gel has tiny molecules called UV initiators which start to vibrate within the gel when it comes into contact with UV light. The is what causes the monomer and polymer molecules to move together to form chains as the product cures.
If there is alot of product to cure, obviously there are more initiators which start moving all at once causing a heat reaction.
If it occurs, move the clients hand out of the lamp, and place the nails just outside the lamp but still in the light. This slows down the initial boost of movement of the initiator molecules. Leave for 20-30 secs and return into the lamp for a full cure.
I know it turned into a bit of a sermon but I hope it helps!!

 

[akaza]

Hi,

As some of the other geeks have mentioned if the clients you are working on have damaged nail beds they may feel a burning sensation for only afew seconds.

All they need to do is to take thier hands out for afew seconds and place them back in.

Also, burning can occur if the gel has seeped onto their skin around the side walls etc.

hth x x

 

[Jolicatellas]

I remember in my gel training the tutor applied gel to a nail model and when the nail model put her hand under the lamp she had a heated sensation and she went to take them out but the tutor made her keep them in.
I knew when this happened with the tutor is was 'normal' for a slight heating sensation to occur. It only happens for a view seconds and only for some people. Plus some people handle the sensation better than others.
There are ways to minimise the sensation as the others have mentioned still some times it just happens.

 

[CurlyQs]

The pain can be really bad with a spike! I would definitely be pulling my hand out although it doesn't instantly stop the pain. I have one client who gets a spike no matter how thin the gel and her nails are very healthy. I have her place her hand in then out of the lamp for 5 seconds 2-3x. After that initial controlled exposure, she is fine.
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[Zondrae]

I often get heat spikes (on myself I mean). I take them out for a few seconds & then put them back under. I think in my case it is because I've damaged my nails while training & they are still sensitive

 

[HeatherDavis]

ok I want to let ALL OF YOU using BRISA that are pulling your clients hands out of the lamp to STOP DOING THAT!

The Brisa lamps cure setting is 2 minutes. Not 1 min 45 seconds. 2 minutes. And everytime you pull the hand out, you are risking undercuring, and that increases the possibility of overexposure for your client, as well as service breakdown later.

Tell your clients to simply press down their fingers while in the lamp, and count to 10 with them. The sensation will pass, and they will be no worse for it.

Then check your application and make sure it isn't TOO thick. Applying TOO MUCH gel is no good either! UV light can only pass through the top most layer of your gel- if you apply too thickly, it won't fully cure, and then you will have MORE problems with service breakdown.

Whenever you are experiencing any problems, grab your Brisa DVD (it comes with the kits now) and watch it- I have been using it for 5 years now, and am up to my eyeballs in education, but I STILL pull out my workbooks and videos often to make sure I am still using my products correctly.

 

[CurlyQs]

ok I want to let ALL OF YOU using BRISA that are pulling your clients hands out of the lamp to STOP DOING THAT!

The Brisa lamps cure setting is 2 minutes. Not 1 min 45 seconds. 2 minutes. And everytime you pull the hand out, you are risking undercuring, and that increases the possibility of overexposure for your client, as well as service breakdown later.

Tell your clients to simply press down their fingers while in the lamp, and count to 10 with them. The sensation will pass, and they will be no worse for it.

Then check your application and make sure it isn't TOO thick. Applying TOO MUCH gel is no good either! UV light can only pass through the top most layer of your gel- if you apply too thickly, it won't fully cure, and then you will have MORE problems with service breakdown.

Whenever you are experiencing any problems, grab your Brisa DVD (it comes with the kits now) and watch it- I have been using it for 5 years now, and am up to my eyeballs in education, but I STILL pull out my workbooks and videos often to make sure I am still using my products correctly.

For my one client who gets the spike (with even a thin application), leaving her hand in is not an option. She just whips it out and I don't blame her as I can see on her face she is very uncomfortable. That's why I do the in/out thing several times for 5 sec in 5 sec. out. Then, I start the full 2 min. cure. No heat spikes for any other clients.
I agree the video is priceless. I rewatch mine often!

 

[MsJohnson]

Totally agree with CurlyQs. Having experienced heat spikes, just leaving my hand in the lamp and waiting for the sensation to subside was not an option. I find that the in and out method before fully curing has helped drastically.