Still have huge issues with stubbly facial hair

[twinkletoes01]

Hi ladies, ive started quite a few threads about this rather shameful problem of mine, ive received some excellent advise but this facial hair wont budge - its upper lip and bit on the chin.
Ive been waxing (then plucking odd hairs) since young age and the hair has got coarser and worse.
Im not a beauty pro or anything - so i need some advice.
I bought a perrot rigot heater and the blonde wax beads - its very good, but im stil left with stubble re growth in 2 days or so -

What can i do?
Is there a stronger wax for short stubbly hairs? Any lotion to apply afterwards to help the hair regrowth process slow down?
any at home laser kits (although read bad reviews on them)

i dont want to go for laser cos i dont want to let it grow and shave it - im scared

and as for electrolysis - again, i cant let it grow, id be mortified as the hair is black and coarse - ugh!!

anyways im babbling, any advice would be good - x

 

[Martin Duffy]

I don't understand how letting it grow for electrolysis is any different from letting it grow for waxing; the length I need hairs to be to treat them for electrolysis is no different from that I need them to be for waxing.

 

[Zo Zo]

I don't do laser so I can't really comment on that but electrolysis would be a good option in my opinion, as the hair doesn't need to be very long at all :hug:

 

[ValencianNails]

***non pro comment coming up :wink2:***

Have you contacted your doctor to find out whether you have a hormone imbalance?
It could be something that could be helped by medication.

Just a thought :hug:

 

[oey]

Can I just ask a few questions - how long are you leaving it in between waxings?

How long are the hairs when you wax them?

Are you leaving the hair in between the waxings?

There are hair growth retardant products available but they dont inhibit the growth completely.

You say you are not a beauty pro and normally I wouldnt recommend that anybody does this type of treatment unless you have received the full training.

 

[Poshfloss]

Hi,
Go and see your doctor, it maybe as already said a hormone inbalance. But they may also pay for laser treatment for you, I have heard that ladies have got this treatment on NHS before. For laser you cannot puck, use hair removal cream or wax, but you can shave. Call into a laser salon and ask for their advice and prices, then you know what the treaments will cost.
Laser is very effective...that would be my choice.
Good luck with what ever path you choose.
Lotsa luv x :hug: x

 

[twinkletoes01]

Thanks for the replies.

The reason i wont go for elecrolysis is cos you cant touch the hair AT ALL until you have finished all treatments - which can take months which means walking around looking like a man til she has finished...at least with waxing, i see the hair i wax it.

i wax it about twice a week - i have to do each side 3 times until all hairs are out - the hair is visible - over the skin, you can feel it - 1mm long roughly. ithen pluck the odd hairs left - by pulling them by the root as advised -

the next day i see the hair again.

its just that area - i dont have hormone imbalance as im not that hairy much else - well in greek all greek people have dark hair - unfortunately!

any chance of telling me a name of one of these creams so i can research it further?

thanks again, i dont know who else to turn to -

 

[Zo Zo]

You can trim the hair between electrolysis appointments. And if you go weekly and the therapist clears it each week, it shouldn't be that hard to live with. You will only ever have a weeks growth and it will get less and less each week. If it's done properly, you will start seeing results fairly quickly. The thing is with electrolysis, it is the only permanent method of hair removal.

No pain, no gain. Weekly electrolysis appointments and a year down the line you could be liberated from this anxiety forever!

 

[twinkletoes01]

and what about elecrolysis scars that ive read so much about?

also - how long does a treatment take - say to get rid of the upper lip? i cant bear months of it - and mines pretty bad...

 

[oey]

With your waxing you need to leave a far longer gap in between.

The reason you are feeling more hairs after a few days is because the hairs you have previously waxed have started to come through. If you left a gap of ideally 3 weeks in between the waxes after about 3 or 4 wax times of doing it at that length of time you will have all the hairs at the same growth cycles so you will be able to go that long and not see the hairs for a longer period of time.

You will get the hairs our far better too if they are that little bit longer.

Its also a wonder your skin isnt more damaged in waxing them this close together.

I also think that laser treatment or electrolysis would be better for you in the long term.

 

[twinkletoes01]

Thanks for the waxing tip, i did think that the hairs coming through were old hairs, rather than the ones id waved previously -

my ski is fine, i use the recommended lotions, plus the wax i use - the blonde thing (cant remeber the name) is meant to grab onto the hair rather than the skin - and my skin feels just fine - its a good wax actually -

i will try to go longer inbetween - thanks for the tip.

so does a lotion out there exist to help me go longer in between waxes? cos its a viscious cycle for me -

i use GIGI slow growth but its pretty rubbish -

 

[oey]

There are a couple - the most popular one being PFB vanish. I also use the PHD one and I also believe that Hive do one to, although I some times doubt how efect all this type of product are.

They discuss this type of product on this thread: Ingrown Hairs and Waxing - Salon Geek As the ingrown hair product tends to be used for the same purpose.

Can I ask - did you ever get your waxing done professionally?

 

[Kim Lawless]

The trouble with facial hair is that you need to let it grow and only wax and then you'll see it reduce and become softer in time. However, you're between the devil and the deep blue sea as you can't stand it when it breaks through the skin so you pluck. Then, the hair never gets a chance to get in the same cycle of growth.

I've seen great success with a few of my clients who had been shaving their upper lip daily. I waxed them once a week which is not ideal as you should leave it 4 weeks for best results, however, the hair became soft and sparse in no time. The deal was that they left it alone in between waxes. After each wax, they can leave it longer and longer until you get four weeks apart. Believe me....it works.

Try Perron Rigot Escential Rose which is brilliant on short, tough hair. It sets immediately and it comes in white/cream coloured beads. xxx

 

[Zo Zo]

and what about elecrolysis scars that ive read so much about?

also - how long does a treatment take - say to get rid of the upper lip? i cant bear months of it - and mines pretty bad...

It is impossible to say how many sessions you would need, but the result is permanent. If you are serious about clearing up the problem, then you will find a good therapist and make a commitment to the treatment, in terms of both time and money.

If the treatment is carried out correctly, there is no reason for you to get scars.

I agree with Oey that you need to leave much longer between waxing, if you are going to carry on with waxing. Although I disagree about the products - inhibitors are different to ingrown hair prevention.

Although I am sceptical about inhibitors.

I will let you know when my magic wand arrives.

 

[bombini]

I don't understand how letting it grow for electrolysis is any different from letting it grow for waxing; the length I need hairs to be to treat them for electrolysis is no different from that I need them to be for waxing.

You can trim the hair between electrolysis appointments. And if you go weekly and the therapist clears it each week, it shouldn't be that hard to live with. You will only ever have a weeks growth and it will get less and less each week. If it's done properly, you will start seeing results fairly quickly. The thing is with electrolysis, it is the only permanent method of hair removal.

No pain, no gain. Weekly electrolysis appointments and a year down the line you could be liberated from this anxiety forever!

Just wanted to say I agree with above.

In my opinion you aren't going to get anywhere with waxing if the hair is that coarse, you either need electrolysis or laser.

Have you been for an electrolysis consultation ? I haven't done electrolysis for a while (which is a shame as its one of my faves) but I have sucessfully treated clients with very short hair, as long as i can grab it with the tweezer it doesn't need to be very long at all.

I would look for someone that specialises in electrolysis as they will be able to cover a wider area quicker than someone that does it now and again, I really reccommend going for a consultation so they can tell you what sort of timescale you will be looking at as impossible for us to do without seeing it.

 

[Lori Nestore]

Thanks for the replies.

The reason i wont go for elecrolysis is cos you cant touch the hair AT ALL until you have finished all treatments - which can take months which means walking around looking like a man til she has finished...at least with waxing, i see the hair i wax it.

i wax it about twice a week - i have to do each side 3 times until all hairs are out - the hair is visible - over the skin, you can feel it - 1mm long roughly. ithen pluck the odd hairs left - by pulling them by the root as advised -

the next day i see the hair again.

its just that area - i dont have hormone imbalance as im not that hairy much else - well in greek all greek people have dark hair - unfortunately!

any chance of telling me a name of one of these creams so i can research it further?

thanks again, i dont know who else to turn to -

You have gotten really good data here, I am just going to clarify. You must go at least 2 weeks inbetween waxing, 3 is even better to actually slow the growth pattern down. This is one reason why I don't recommend we wax womens faces, cause they don't want to grow it out.

You do not need to leave the hair grow for electrolysis, you need to go every single week until the hair is gone. Shaving it will not make it thicker either, that is an old wives tale. Laser or electrolysis would be the way to go, just make sure you interview technicians until you find one you like. And really, stop waxing yourself so often, it is the main reason why you always have stubble. I am not saying it is easy, just giving you the reason. Good luck!

 

[Florriedee]

Have you thought about bleaching the regrowth between electrolysis appointments/waxings/laserings whichever you go for (I would head for electolysis myself I had it cos I had hair on my nipples and it was extremely annoying, not to mention embarassing and I don't embarass easily) cos that may make you feel better as it would be less visible. Sorry if there is some reason why doing this is a bad idea! Good luck with it btw! Lx
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[twinkletoes01]

thanks so much for the replies, some great great advice, you really all know your stuff - it all make sso much sense to me now the fact that i was waxng every few days was prob why it got so bad, its just such an obsession seeing the hair there and the urge to pulll the hair out!

As for the elecrolysis - i do know of a fab woman - she did my mum and sisters and has 30 years experience - etc - she told me it wuld take a while andthat im not allowed to bleach in between at all - just to leave it , and to be honest i feel ugly enough these days without having a moustache while she slowly finishes the whole area.

However, its an option, its there, and i can fall back on it if l else fails.

I prefer the ease of a good wax - and i will try giving that a good go first seeing as i have bought the heater, etc - i will try that other wax (thanks kim) i assume its better than the euro blonde? il ring thalgo 2mw and order some.

I will also leave longer between waxes and bleach inbetween too-

so to summarise the longer you leave between wax cycles then the slower the hair grows - have i got this right?

Thanks again - theres light at the end of the tunnel again..
just to add- the stuble is at the sides only not the whole area..

 

[Zo Zo]

so to summarise the longer you leave between wax cycles then the slower the hair grows - have i got this right?

No. Regular waxing may or may not slow the growth down. For some people it works, for others it does not.

If the hairs are only at the sides, you probably will not need much electro and - it's permanent!

 

[Bebeautiful]

***non pro comment coming up :wink2:***

Have you contacted your doctor to find out whether you have a hormone imbalance?
It could be something that could be helped by medication.

Just a thought :hug:

I agree wih Sandi, however, if you went to a trained and experienced therapist they would carryout a really good consultant which would include your feelings not only about your condition by also about the treatment plan to put you at ease. S/he should be able to ease your mind towards the treatment. Good luck with your choices :hug: