Have asked on here before but got no response, wld appreciate any feedback

[lisa.sharrock]

Hi all,

Posted last week but didnt get any response but would be grateful for some help as i'm not sure i'm doing right thing here.

Been offered a table in an upmarket hair salon on the outskirts of city, hours are p/t - 3 days and the fixed rent is £50.00/week.

They are new to nail side of business but have an already established elite client base. They do not wish to offer artificial enhancements so the services and prices offered are as follows:-

File and polish £6.50
Luxury Manicure £21
Pedi £21
Minx £25
Minx hands & toes £45
Shellac £25

All products supplied, I supply own uniform and can only use salons brands (Essie and Seche).

They know I don't have my own client base and when I asked they said they could provide their own.

How does this sound to you self employed guys out there? Sorry I did a search but some of the threads were a couple of years old.

Thanks in advance

x

 

[geeg]

Bite their hands off ... that sounds a good reasonable deal for everyone. Just make suyre you ask them to fix that rent for 2 years. Otherwise as soon as they see you making good money they wil want a cut. VERY important to fix the rent. Good luck .. I'm sure you will do well .. especially with Shellac and Minx I don't see how you can go wrong. :hug:

 

[Zo Zo]

I agree with geeg, sounds fab, just wanted to check - is it you or they who will supply the products? I imagine it's you. Don't see how they can for £50 pw!

 

[lisa.sharrock]

Terms: XXXXXX supply all products, equipment and utensils.

They are still awaiting Shellac supplies and I believe the other p/t nail tech has her own Minx kit. Surely though if they are stating in their terms they supply all products and equipment then that is exactly that?

I start my probationary period on Friday, so I guess I'll know more then.

Thank you guys, you've put my mind at ease. xx

 

[lisa.sharrock]

Another quick Q please...

The days offered are...

Mon, Wed and Fri

or

Tue, Thur and Sat

I would personally prefer Mon, Wed and Fri but thinking in cash terms would the option be more financially viable??

The owner did say they were busy on Fridays and that lots of their clients would often take a Friday off.

Ooooh then if you had clients going to weddings on a Sat, then they would possibly come in on a Fri too.

Blimey, think my head is going to explode! lol x

 

[Martigirl]

Grab it quick!!!!

personally I would do Tues, Thurs and Saturday

 

[cabby]

I would snap thier hands off aswell, I was going to go in a salon agreed a price then first day she wanted to charge more so I have stayed mobile. I would also fix the price for a period of time x

 

[lisa.sharrock]

just wanted to point out its £50 for 3 day week. x

 

[Zo Zo]

OK. It is a great deal, but I don't know if it's sutainable from the salon's point of view. I don't use Minx so not totally sure of the cost,but surely in 3 days you could use more than £50 worth of Minx, which would make it a loss maker for them?

 

[Mandita8601]

sounds good to me

 

[geeg]

It would be a good deal even if you were supplying all the products (which I assumed you were?

Products should cost about 13% of service with enhancement products but it is allot more with Minx and Shellac (more like 25%) so the salon needs to be aware that after 100.00 taken in the 3 days?? they will be loosing money. You should buy the products yourself.

 

[Zo Zo]

Yes, I just wanted to point it out because regardless of what the contract says, the salon is highly unlikely to allow the situation to continue once they realise. But I also agree with geeg, it's still a great deal, even if you have to supply your own products.

 

[katiebbaby]

Hi all,

Posted last week but didnt get any response but would be grateful for some help as i'm not sure i'm doing right thing here.

Been offered a table in an upmarket hair salon on the outskirts of city, hours are p/t - 3 days and the fixed rent is £50.00/week.

They are new to nail side of business but have an already established elite client base. They do not wish to offer artificial enhancements so the services and prices offered are as follows:-

File and polish £6.50
Luxury Manicure £21
Pedi £21
Minx £25
Minx hands & toes £45
Shellac £25

All products supplied, I supply own uniform and can only use salons brands (Essie and Seche).

They know I don't have my own client base and when I asked they said they could provide their own.

How does this sound to you self employed guys out there? Sorry I did a search but some of the threads were a couple of years old.

Thanks in advance

x

Are you sure their not wanting to pay you a daily rate, as £50 for you to rent the table yet you use there products and keep all the profits?? does not sound like win win situation to me. Just out of interst have you asked why they do not want to offer enhancments, or overlays? :lick:

 

[lisa.sharrock]

Hi girls,

thanks for your input, I will definitely have to clarify all these points when I start on Friday, I know for DEFINITE that the all inclusive products are all the mani/pedi stuff and all the polishes. They don't have Shellac yet but she did say that the other nail tech who would be doing the other 3 days had her own Minx kit. So yeah maybe I will have to provide my own Shellac and Minx stuff.

She doesn't want to offer L&P as she doesn't feel her clients are the "type" but to be honest maybe in time I can pursuade her?!?!?! We have a lot of wannabe wags in this area and I don't think that is what she's aiming for. :o

So basically if I was to provide my own Shellac/Minx, I take it it's still worth it?? I'm just about to do my business plan and I'm told I could get a grant of upto £700 so that will be able to fund my stock.

To be honest, I'm going to grab it with both hands, I'm fresh out of College, it's an established salon with an amazing clientelle (so my tutors say) and would look great on my CV having worked for them just in case it does go belly up!!!

 

[lisa.sharrock]

ps. on the terms sheet she has an income example worksheet with the following figure...

Based on 6 clients per day x 3 days

Minimum takings £6.50 file and polish x 6 = £39 x 3 = £117 - £50 = £67 per week takings/wage.

£21 manicure x 6 = £126 x 3 = £378.00 takings - £50.00 rent = £328 per week takings/wage.

Shellacs and Minx on top would obviously be more.

So the figures are there in black and white.

Thanks for you input, I really appreciate it.

 

[katiebbaby]

ps. on the terms sheet she has an income example worksheet with the following figure...

Based on 6 clients per day x 3 days

Minimum takings £6.50 file and polish x 6 = £39 x 3 = £117 - £50 = £67 per week takings/wage.

£21 manicure x 6 = £126 x 3 = £378.00 takings - £50.00 rent = £328 per week takings/wage.

Shellacs and Minx on top would obviously be more.

So the figures are there in black and white.


Ahh yes but don't run before you can walk lol,,,that's what she is saying. And you might not have a full book every day, as if you are only offering your service to natural nail clients then your market is not as wide. Lots of my clients are lovely respectable ladies some of whom are carears some are housewives and some retired from 20 yr of age up too 75 yrs of age and most of my clients love natural looking enhancments, not a wanna be wag in sight,,lol not on my shift anyhows:lick::lick:

How do you go about ladies whom brake a nail and like to have all nails same length as my natural clients do, I just extend that nail thinly and slightly. How about toenail reconstructions? all can be done with L&P

Also if she aiming at certain clients then im sure minx will not be a winner on fingers. And I know my minx toes last over 4 weeks mostly 6 weeks so that client unless wanting new design would not be regular as your L&P clients would be as every 2-3 weeks,, just food for thought hey :?::?:

 

[lisa.sharrock]

Hi Katie,

Yeah I know what you're saying, I realise I could end up with only 3 clients per day only wanting a £6.50 file and polish :sad: If that happens then I have no choice but to reconsider.

Like I said I would like to get her to think about enhancements but at the moment we're all new to the nail industry part of her business.

I'm on a probabationary period so I'll get more of an idea once I've started and I won't be signing anything legally at this point.

I was wondering about the Minx to be honest as it's not as lasting on nails than toes. I'm in on Friday with the other p/t nail tech so I'll be able to pick her brains then.


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