When do you tip cut?

[jimboodee2]

I am about to finish my VTCT course using NSI products and we are being trained to cut the tip after we have applied the acrylic... But on the NSI dvd's that cut tip prior to applying acrylic.... does it make any difference??? when i have had my nails done in the past they were cut before product... what do you guys do and what do you feel is the best way.

many thanks

 

[Marilyn Monroe]

hi I always cut once i've applied them all before applying any product. i know you said your using L&P but if you went on to doing gel you really can't be cutting them after applying the product as it would break the seal. also do you not think it's a waste of product if the client is having the tips really short?

 

[Karen Minx]

I cut the tip before...saves on product also the risk of splitting the acrylic.

 

[Gelly]

Cut the tip before applying the l&p.

Seems crazy to shorten with tip cutters after....... you are likely to cause trauma to your clients nail beds and also likely to crack your work.

Bonkers!

 

[Miss Pink23]

Definetly before, you wouldnt be able to cut them after you have applied the acrylic.
x

 

[Peeps]

you shouldnt try to cut with tip cutters after applying the acrylic, as it's possible to split the acrylic and damage your clients nail. im really surprised your being taught like that, it doesnt make sense. waste of your time and product too! xx

 

[pringle12]

I apply tips to all ten, then cut the tip and shape the free edge, then blend, and then on goes the product.x

 

[thinkpink2008]

i always cut before, as already said, there is loads that could happen with cutting after! you could apply your acrylic perfectly then fracture it by cutting!

 

[hekate01831]

How can we have people teaching this??? it would be crazy to waste so much product, and the risk of damaging the clients nail beds has got to be high surely??

 

[VHunter]

My mind is boggled.
Cut 'after' applying the product?

Always cut the tip BEFORE applying the product.

 

[glitz]

True I too was trained by NSI and taught to cut the tip after application of acrylic but cut just above application line so no stress is on the nail then shape the free edge iykwim. In saying that I no longer follow this method and apply tips clip & shape prior to application.

 

[marioned]

Even if you cut above where you applied the product, this could cause bending further down with the pressure of the clipper. Even if you can't see any cracks there could be little micro-cracks which would cause problems. Cut before you apply to save any problems. xx

 

[glitz]

Even if you cut above where you applied the product, this could cuse bending xx

Thats why I clip before. I was never comfortable clipping after application (had visions of it breaking in half ripping the nail) even though we were taught to hold & support the nail.

 

[jimboodee2]

Thanks everyone... They were my thoughts too but thought I would just check.... Our educator is very good but did not understand that method either and since i'm at the end of the course I will start cutting tips before,,

 

[izzidoll]

When I did a College Course (many years ago) it was NSI products being used and this is what they taught. They also taught you to use your tip cutters to cut the tips off again prior to a soak off.
Apparently the NSI product will not crack or shatter when you do this.

I however was using CND products at the time and took my own Kit into class (Yes the teacher loved me lol!) and would do as I had been trained and cut the tip prior to application. Also I would not cut the enhancement down prior to a soak off, because CND teach that their product could crack and put pressure on the natural nail.

Do I have a point here?......oh yes

Just because we have been taught one way with a certain product does not mean that another way isn't correct for another product.
NSI obviously know their products and their capabilities otherwise they wouldn't teach this.

 

[stoney]

Thanks everyone... They were my thoughts too but thought I would just check.... Our educator is very good but did not understand that method either and since i'm at the end of the course I will start cutting tips before,,

I originally trained with NSI and was taught this way, as was my assistant last year. NSI have always taught this way and although I stopped doing it along time ago, I have never had an breakages or service breakdown because of it.

Actually sometimes now when I am precutting my tips, I can accidently cut one too short, never had that problem before funnily enough

NSI say it is to teach you how to feather out the free edge, as you have the tip to feather onto, if that makes sense. If you are sculpting onto a tip the way you would a form, you shouldn't have a great thick tip to cut anyway, should you??

And no they do not teach that way with gel, they pre-cut the tips with gel, for obvious reasons.

 

[nailzoo]

This is such an interesting post for me personally.

In the salon I cut then apply, but on the comp floor I usually apply then cut.

The acrylic doesn't shatter and it saves me faffing about with getting even application on the ends, (I just taper the acrylic application off, then cut with tip nippers and have a completely even layer with no thought or effort at all).

I have several trophies in this category and it really caught on here in AUS, when people were wondering what made my application faster and better.

I actually haven't done it for quite some time now ..... but now you mention it..... I think I'll have a play again with my next set.

I never shape my tips, I just chop them off and apply, it's kinda the same theory (that way I only shape once) ... at the end.

Nearly every file stroke effects the shape, I start at the cuticle area (eponichium) and work my way to the free-edge, (that's last).

My theory on this is the fact that a tree grows from the roots up, not from the leaves down!!!!!

As an experiment, next time you do a nail, count how many times you shape the free-edge ......

 

[stoney]

In the salon I cut then apply, but on the comp floor I usually apply then cut.

The acrylic doesn't shatter and it saves me faffing about with getting even application on the ends, (I just taper the acrylic application off, then cut with tip nippers and have a completely even layer with no thought or effort at all).

OMG now you say it, doesn't it make so much sense!!!:idea: I will be trying it on my next competition set! Cheers Carl :lol: xxxx

 

[kellyhacker]

i was taught by nsi in april 07 and i was taught to cut shape and then apply product so i guess it depends on your teacher!

 

[Ragdoll >^..^<]

Well it just goes to prove to me what i thought - alot (not all) college training is cr.p. Well mine was ! and i know alot of others were too, other techs i know.

Carl - i was only thinking of trying out your method (for comps only) today as i was practicing ! how funny !